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It looked like just papertalk between us and Gudjohnsen. We're only after one forward and it looks like we've turned our attentions to a younger player who'll fit in to our style of play more as a sub striker in Marvin Emnes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14144450.stm

Neil Taylor's also signed a new four year deal' date=' so don't try and make out as if The Swans are anything but delighted with todays events.[/quote']

Swansea City say defender Neil Taylor is considering signing a new four-year deal to remain with the Premier League newcomers.

I get that your passionate about your club and such SJ... but deary me can you ever admit something that isnt pro Swansea for a pleasent change :P. And im not being bitter as a cardiff fan, but you never admit that anything at swansea isnt running smoothly and great :o even the little things you refusre to acknowledge.

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In the Wales games you've seen Taylor play in' date=' you seemingly thought he was awful when in truth looking around on the net even the Cardiff fans thought he played well. Wales were 1-0 up half-time and defended relaitvely well, he's come off for Gunter and they lose 3-1. He then goes on to start the next Wales game with the first team - telling you all you need to really know about that performance.

Against Leeds, Robert Snodgrass was just frustrated playing against Taylor.

Sinclair's not the best of players, and i'd understand why some fans wouldn't rate him. I like him, but he isn't the great or consistant. What i don't understand is people who think we're a one man team with a player who i wouldn't even put in our top 3 players.

Konchesky did do poorly at both Liverpool and even the Forest fans weren't impressed with him. He's certainly got something to prove going in to next season. He could do well, but he does have something to prove. Far from the worst of Leicester's signings this summer, as Sean St. Ledger takes that every time but i just think he's going to have to prove that he was the player he once was next season.[/quote']

Well done on COMPLETELY missing the point.

How on earth do you manage to turn every post into an argument about Swansea?

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I get that your passionate about your club and such SJ... but deary me can you ever admit something that isnt pro Swansea for a pleasent change :P. And im not being bitter as a cardiff fan' date=' but you never admit that anything at swansea isnt running smoothly and great :o even the little things you refusre to acknowledge.[/quote']

Things are kind of running smoothly though, would you admit?

It turned in to a Swansea argument when:

Aidan I've seen Neil Taylor in action twice. He was appalling both times.

I've also only seen Scott Sinclair about five times, and the only good performance I can recall is against us last season (that includes the play-off final where I thought he was the worst player on the pitch, cleverly disguised by a penalty and two open goals).

So all i did was give my opinion on that B)

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Things are kind of running smoothly though' date=' would you admit?

It turned in to a Swansea argument when:

So all i did was give my opinion on that B)[/quote']

Ye - why? We've had the discussion before. I know your opinion on it. I have mine. You have a different opinion to me. Surprise surprise, especially considering it's a criticism of a Swansea player. Because of course a Swansea player can never play bad. Ever.

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Ye - why? We've had the discussion before. I know your opinion on it. I have mine. You have a different opinion to me. Surprise surprise' date=' especially considering it's a criticism of a Swansea player. Because of course a Swansea player can never play bad. Ever.[/quote']

Did you need even read my post on Sinclair :rolleyes: And oh wow, once again a sarcastic post, far from suprised B)

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Yes it is' date=' i'm not trying to discuss Swansea on here, it's just generally people bringing anything to do with us on here rather than on the Premiership thread B)[/quote']

That really wasn't the case in this instance. Luke used his opinion of Neil Taylor and Scott Sinclair as an analogy to your opinion of Paul Konchesky. His whole post was aimed at making the point that it's just not possible to form an opinion on a certain player based on a couple of viewings, since that can easily give you a slanted opinion on their ability and/or average performance, either positive or negative. Just like Luke fully admitted that he can't completely write Taylor or Sinclair off from his bad experiences watching them, you simply cannot say that Paul Konchesky is a bad/mediocre purchase at this level based on what you saw of him at Forest last season.

Unfortunately, you completely missed that point and decided to defend your players as if Luke had attacked their credibility, which couldn't have been further from the truth. You really need to learn how to read a bit more carefully Aidan, and that's not meant as an insult; that's meant as friendly advice for the future. The ability to read (and by that I mean beyond just the words written on a page/screen) and process information given to you is a great skill to have.

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I think we should temporarily ban SJ from this thread only for a season until Swansea are back of course :).

But until then every conversation ends up being a row or comparison with Swansea or their players in some shape or form and im getting sick of it to be perfectly honest... (and im not directly blaming SJ or anybody else, it just seems to never end and any topic results in a swansea debate when they have no bloody relevance at all just seems tit for tat)

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Apparently Eidur Gudjohnsen has had a medical with us in the hope he'll get a transfer. I still think he is quite good and would be a decent Championship .I still can't fathom how we've managed signed Nolan, Faye and maybe Gudjohnsen in the Championship (nor do I agree with the former two's confirmed arrivals) when I presume they'll have been on big wages at Newcastle and Stoke respectively, and what with our poor financial state it makes it seem even more baffling. Can't complain, though.

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Thoughts on Clingan SBG?

Oh god....just read the news.....:(

Honestly don't have a bad word to say about Sammy. An excellent leader, set-piece specialist. He reads the game superbly and can play the holding role or can push forward. A fans favourite, one of Andy Thorns favourites and is our captain for next season.

If Sisu sell him for anything less than 3 or 4 million then I'm certain it will spell the beginning of the end. To be honest they shouldn't sell him at all, but we're talking about Sisu here, and they are the most stupid backward thinking idiots on the face of the planet.

The fans will turn faster than they already are, the rest of the team will lose all motivation and some get the feeling Andy Thorn would possibly walk out too.

Sad to think that Coventry City Football Club, once one of the proudest most gutsy teams around is now sinking with little more than a whimper. The owners are trashing the club and they honestly don't seem to care.

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Judging by your forums' date=' I can't see us agreeing a fee. [b']Unless SISU are as stupid and/or desperate for money as some make out[/b]. I can't see us spending over £500k and I can't see Coventry accepting that low.

Seems you have a good chance then! They really are the most stupid owners I think any team has had....ever.

They're the owners responsible for stalled contract negotiations that cost the club Keiren Westwood, Aron Gunnarsson, Marlon King, Danny Fox, Scott Dann, Jay Tabb, Leon McKenzie and Marcus Hall. Fox and Dann were both sold of course because they wanted new deals much sooner than they were offered so declined to resign and had to be moved on.

They're the owners that gave Michael Doyle away for free at a time when we only had 2 fit central midfielders.

They're the owners that agreed fees for and then backed out of signing Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Jack Cork.

They're the owners the owners that are losing 500k a month yet still refuse to sell up despite an offer being made.

Sums them up really......

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They're the owners the owners that are losing 500k a month yet still refuse to sell up despite an offer being made.

Sums them up really......

do they own that retail park around the ricoh' date=' if so that may explain why they wont sell (assuming the 500k a month loss is solely for the football team)

I still can't fathom how we've managed signed Nolan, Faye and maybe Gudjohnsen in the Championship (nor do I agree with the former two's confirmed arrivals) when I presume they'll have been on big wages at Newcastle and Stoke respectively, and what with our poor financial state it makes it seem even more baffling. Can't complain, though.

http://www.whufc.com/page/MatchTickets/0,,12562,00.html

£47 tickets could have something to do with it ;)

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I think we should temporarily ban SJ from this thread only for a season until Swansea are back of course :).

But until then every conversation ends up being a row or comparison with Swansea or their players in some shape or form and im getting sick of it to be perfectly honest... (and im not directly blaming SJ or anybody else' date=' it just seems to never end and any topic results in a swansea debate when they have no bloody relevance at all just seems tit for tat)[/quote']

I agree.

As for Coventry, It doesn't sound good at all however I put money on it that you will still be our bogey team no matter what state the club is currently in!

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do they own that retail park around the ricoh' date=' if so that may explain why they wont sell (assuming the 500k a month loss is solely for the football team)[/quote']

No they own none of it. The arena belongs to Coventry City Council and the Alan Higgs Trust.

They (Sisu) had numerous opportunities to buy half of the Arena (the Alan Higgs half) for £10m. The Arena itself is valued at about £80m, so half for just £10m was a great offer yet Sisu never stumped up the funds.

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No they own none of it. The arena belongs to Coventry City Council and the Alan Higgs Trust.

They (Sisu) had numerous opportunities to buy half of the Arena (the Alan Higgs half) for £10m. The Arena itself is valued at about £80m' date=' so half for just £10m was a great offer yet Sisu never stumped up the funds.[/quote']

cheers - thats odd, could understand them holding onto it if they owned the rest of it (the rent from the tesco will probably be very high) but if they dont and the offer at least allows them to get out without losing money its a bit of headscratcher

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I think we should temporarily ban SJ from this thread only for a season until Swansea are back of course :).

But until then every conversation ends up being a row or comparison with Swansea or their players in some shape or form and im getting sick of it to be perfectly honest... (and im not directly blaming SJ or anybody else' date=' it just seems to never end and any topic results in a swansea debate when they have no bloody relevance at all just seems tit for tat)[/quote']

I'm up for banning the word Swansea on here ... i'm sick of it.

Clingan's a great player at this level, i'd definatly feel he would be an improvement on Bradley Johnson.

I think Coventry are certainly being run poorly, they seem to have a new manager every 6 months and i can't see Thorn lasting that long myself either :o

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No they own none of it. The arena belongs to Coventry City Council and the Alan Higgs Trust.

They (Sisu) had numerous opportunities to buy half of the Arena (the Alan Higgs half) for £10m. The Arena itself is valued at about £80m' date=' so half for just £10m was a great offer yet Sisu never stumped up the funds.[/quote']

I heard from extremely reliable sources (My Dad's work mates - he works in Coventry) that the guy trying to buy you is willing to stump up like £30m, £20m on players and the other £10m on buying a share in the ground, or something similar? If this is true, and your current owner eventually sells, then things would begin to look up again.

I know very little on the topic and could be way out with what I've just said by the way :o Feel free to point out if I'm wrong :P

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I heard from extremely reliable sources (My Dad's work mates - he works in Coventry) that the guy trying to buy you is willing to stump up like £30m' date=' £20m on players and the other £10m on buying a share in the ground, or something similar? If this is true, and your current owner eventually sells, then things would begin to look up again.

I know very little on the topic and could be way out with what I've just said by the way :o Feel free to point out if I'm wrong :P[/quote']

Those figures are pretty much spot on although the split would be £10m on the stadium share, £6m on reducing the debt, £6m on wages and £8m on transfers I think.

The issue is that Sisu seem like they don't want to sell and Gary Hoffman (the head of the new consortium bid) offered £1 for the club. I don't see Hoffman raising that bid much because the club loses £6m a year....not really worth buying for millions of pounds, and Sisu seem stupid enough to think the club is actually worth something.

It will also take months for a take-over to happen pushing us into the new season with the current muppets trying to boost their income by selling the likes of Clingan with Turner and Cranie probably following knowing how Sisu work.

I really hope something can be sorted and soon but at the moment we're falling apart for all to see.

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