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After the checking the amount of comments in the main thread (despite my efforts to avoid having them there) and PM's both through the forum and in-game, I decided to create this thread so that you ca

Otavio only deserves a +1 I think. Braga have been dropping like a stone recently which may (and probably should) affect their review.  Rahul's predictions for the big 3 are fair, so for the othe

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Definetely possible' date=' probably best Slb player this season along with Salvio [b']and starter for country.[/b] If Serbja were doing well in the WC qualifying, I would give it as certain..

This is false. He abdicated, in November, indefinitely of the NT because he was convoked for 5 games and didn't had a chance.

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This is false. He abdicated' date=' in November, indefinitely of the NT because he was convoked for 5 games and didn't had a chance.[/quote']

Yeah sorry he is not starting, one more reason they sack Mihajlovic fast I guess they are sucking really hard in the WC qualifying.. I was really convinced he was the starter.

So it should make it harder for the +2 to 90, although certainly possible depending on the trophies SLb manage to grab.

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who think GAITAN should already increase +1/+2

Don't believe he gonna get even +1.... He has, so far, only 1 full match in Primeira Liga. Maybe if he score a winning goal on the final gonna get him +1, but I believe 89 is good enough for him atm.

But still I watched him only in League Europa so let Portuguese specialist to say smth about it.

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i can considered myself a portuguese specialist' date=' and i can tell u that gaitan at the moment is the best benfica player[/quote']

I can agree he did step up in this final stage of the season, but that's only because the rest of the team is getting tired thus making him more noticeable. 3 good/great games doesn't make him Benfica best player.

I can tell for sure that Salvio, Matic, Lima, Cardozo, Artur are Benfica best players this season, followed by Enzo, Maxi, Garay and then Gaitan/Rodrigo.

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I can agree he did step up in this final stage of the season' date=' but that's only because the rest of the team is getting tired thus making him more noticeable. 3 good/great games doesn't make him Benfica best player.

I can tell for sure that Salvio, Matic, Lima, Cardozo, Artur are Benfica best players this season, followed by Enzo, Maxi, Garay and then Gaitan/Rodrigo.[/quote']

Don't you Rodrigo has been awful? Perhaps you meant Cardozo.. I think so and I'm not benfiquista ;) And Maxi also, he has seen better days..

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Don't you Rodrigo has been awful? Perhaps you meant Cardozo.. I think so and I'm not benfiquista ;) And Maxi also' date=' he has seen better days..[/quote']

Rodrigo had a good first half of a season, but then Jesus made him disappear, he has that ability with players, when he stops rotating well between them. He stops playing the players and then expects them to be at top form whenever he's with the rope around his neck and needs someone else to save him. Of course most of the time players fail to impress.

Yes, Maxi have seen better days, but he's still one of most influential players on the pitch, but very temperamental and unpredictable, don't like that much.

Don't like Cardozo, i think he's lazy and not so good of a player. But he scores most of the time when the team needs it and he kind of impress me lately, just but a phase i believe.

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I can agree he did step up in this final stage of the season' date=' but that's only because the rest of the team is getting tired thus making him more noticeable. 3 good/great games doesn't make him Benfica best player.

I can tell for sure that Salvio, Matic, Lima, Cardozo, Artur are Benfica best players this season, followed by Enzo, Maxi, Garay and then Gaitan/Rodrigo.[/quote']

Yeah youre right, but Maxi and Enzo arent great at all imo. Gaitan is better than them

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Yeah youre right' date=' but Maxi and Enzo arent great at all imo. Gaitan is better than them[/color']

I agree that Gaitan has better skills and much more potencial, but he doesn't perform regularly, especially when all that he does is lose the ball while trying to do a terrible dribble or trying a ridiculous pass.

People tend to forget what he does most of the games just because he was brilliant in 2 or 3 games.

Maxi and Enzo are warriors in the field, they fight (perhaps too much sometimes) for ball possession and every inch of the field. They do their jobs very well and most of all regularly.

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I agree that Gaitan has better skills and much more potencial' date=' but he doesn't perform regularly, especially when all that he does is lose the ball while trying to do a terrible dribble or trying a ridiculous pass.

People tend to forget what he does most of the games just because he was brilliant in 2 or 3 games.

Maxi and Enzo are warriors in the field, they fight (perhaps too much sometimes) for ball possession and every inch of the field. They do their jobs very well and most of all regularly.[/quote']

Yeah, Enzo is amazing and he does keep it clean only 4 yellows (Maxi has 8) so far in the league. When you remember he has played CM for less than a year you got to give up for Jesus. He and Matic have been the engine throughout the season and his injury should hurt Slb against Porto tomorrow...

I agree with you on Gaitan, pretty irritating type of player.

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Yeah' date=' Enzo is amazing and he does keep it clean only 4 yellows (Maxi has 8) so far in the league. When you remember he has played CM for less than a year you got to give up for Jesus. He and Matic have been the engine throughout the season and his injury should hurt Slb against Porto tomorrow...

I agree with you on Gaitan, pretty irritating type of player.[/quote']

Yes, Jesus has his qualities, but i think he's a bad manager when it counts, for example in the last game, against Estoril, he could've rested the most utilized players, because it was visible that some were quite unfit, being the most obvious Lima and Salvio, but he didin't and i think that could've cost him the championship.

Jesus is bragging all the time that Benfica is in 2 Finals (EL, Portuguese Cup) and leads Primeira Liga, blah blah blah, like he has actual won something, and that is really annoying because i can see Benfica losing it all (hope not) because of Jesus bad management, like he did 2 seasons ago.

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thanks mate' date=' what about steven vitoria? Is he worth buying?[/b']

guys , just a simple yes or no would do. I once read he's wanted by many clubs and he's a good defender. But I need opinions from people who watch portuguese football

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guys ' date=' just a simple yes or no would do. I once read he's wanted by many clubs and he's a good defender. But I need opinions from people who watch portuguese football[/b']

Sorry mate, i really don't have any really opinion of him, seems decent, but i wouldn't buy him, there is better options out there.

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Sorry mate' date=' i really don't have any really opinion of him, seems decent, but i wouldn't buy him, there is better options out there.[/quote']

thanks mate, thats what I needed :D

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Yes' date=' Jesus has his qualities, but i think he's a bad manager when it counts, for example in the last game, against Estoril, he could've rested the most utilized players, because it was visible that some were quite unfit, being the most obvious Lima and Salvio, but he didin't and i think that could've cost him the championship.

Jesus is bragging all the time that Benfica is in 2 Finals (EL, Portuguese Cup) and leads Primeira Liga, blah blah blah, like he has actual won something, and that is really annoying because i can see Benfica losing it all (hope not) because of Jesus bad management, like he did 2 seasons ago.[/quote']

Yup. like 2 seasons ago, Benfica was close to the title even closer than this year and he lost it for poor team management and tactical decisions. I can guarantee you that the only trophy he may win is the Portuguese Cup against Vitória de Guimarães in 25th May...

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guys ' date=' just a simple yes or no would do. I once read he's wanted by many clubs and he's a good defender. But I need opinions from people who watch portuguese football[/b']

Steven Vitória, a center-back from Estoril, has been one of the prominent players in the league this season. The 26 years player was formed in FC Porto, has aroused the interest of foreign and national emblems.

Sporting will certainly make a great 'cleaning' in their squad next season opening several vacancies. Benfica will now probably 'lose' Garay. I think this player has an amazing physical power for both offensive or defensive moves, something that some CBs don´t have. He is 1,95m, he is a strong defender, very good in air game. I would buy him know before he moves or rises further more. Currently one of the best defender in the Portuguese Liga!

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