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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

In my opinion he should be listed as a 100% dropper.

It doesn't really matter. Point is: I got him as a very sure dropper. So anybody who looked at the prediction would sell him anyway.

True' date=' but atleast he has a tiny chance of dropping.[/quote']

Hmm, I might consider this next time I review Sporting.

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After the checking the amount of comments in the main thread (despite my efforts to avoid having them there) and PM's both through the forum and in-game, I decided to create this thread so that you ca

Otavio only deserves a +1 I think. Braga have been dropping like a stone recently which may (and probably should) affect their review.  Rahul's predictions for the big 3 are fair, so for the othe

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Aimar likes to suffer he was destroyed by Zaragoaza's medical team and came to Benfica' date=' which has an amazing medical team (i have to remember to you Mantorras case) intelligent guy. [/quote']

There you go again, confusing things... Benfica's medical team are not surgeons, they were not the ones that operated on Mantorras made that mess. Aimar's recovery was considered nearly miraculous, as he was physically a mess.

Wait if he is Maradona's weakness why he didn't call him to the WC?

You are talking about a ridiculous call-up where Zanetti, Cambiasso and Lisandro are missing after the excellent seasons they did (oh, btw, forgot Lucho on purpose, because i don't really think he's essential there)

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There you go again' date=' confusing things... Benfica's medical team are not surgeons, they were not the ones that operated on Mantorras made that mess. Aimar's recovery was considered nearly miraculous, as he was physically a mess.

You are talking about a ridiculous call-up where Zanetti, Cambiasso and Lisandro are missing after the excellent seasons they did (oh, btw, forgot Lucho on purpose, because i don't really think he's essential there)[/quote']

Those aren't quotes of mine as far as I'm concerned ;)

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Riferimento: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hi,

I would like to buy a LB or RB (better if he stands in both position),

an 87 or less rising to 88 or more in the next revision!

do you have someone to suggest to me?

also, will rui patricio rise?

thank you, and everyone who would to help me.

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Re: Riferimento: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hi' date='

I would like to buy a LB or RB (better if he stands in both position),

an 87 or less rising to 88 or more in the next revision!

do you have someone to suggest to me?[/quote']

Alvaro Pereira.

also, will rui patricio rise?

thank you, and everyone who would to help me.

I think so, but SM might be harsh on Sporting for their 4th place, which would prevent Patricio to get the 89.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

TIAGO PINTO' date=' Miguel LB-LMDE/ME 22 80

JOAO AURELIO, Miguel Nacional

sHOULD I KEEP THIS PLAYERS?[/quote']

Sell Tiago Pinto, he won't rise any time soon, but keep Joao Aurelio for a couple more weeks, he will get a +1. Sell him just after that.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

New discussion topic: The Liga Sagres' international paradigm

Players from the Liga Sagres in the World Cup (NT alphabetical order)

Algeria: Halliche (NAC)

Argentina: Di Maria (SLB)

Brazil: Luisão and Ramires (SLB)

Chile: Mati Fernández (SCP)

Paraguay: Cardozo (SLB)

Portugal: Eduardo (SCB); R. Meireles, Beto, B. Alves and Rolando (FCP); P. Mendes, Liedson and M. Veloso (SCP); F. Coentrão (SLB)

[R. Amorim (SLB); J. Moutinho (SCP) (stand-by players)]

[Serbia: Djuricic (UDL) (stand-by player)]

Slovenia: Pecnik (NAC)

Uruguay: Fucile and A. Pereira (FCP); Maxi Pereira (SLB)

TOTAL: 19* players out of 736 (2,58%)

Is this the reflection of the general quality of our football?

* stand-by players not included

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Yes' date=' I hope it's kind to us.

We've already signed Gaitan, Faria and Franco Jara, so we are well prepared for depatures. I really think atleast Ramires, Coentrao, Saviola and Javi Garcia will stay, seeing as they recently joined and still needs to develop.

If we lose Davod Luiz, I don't think we need to replace him with some expensive defender. In my opinion, Sidnei and Faria with some developing, can handle that situation.[/quote']

Jara's transfer ... is it confirmed by a reliable source yet ?

Thanks.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Jara's transfer ... is it confirmed by a reliable source yet ?

Thanks.

http://www.planetbenfica.co.uk/news.php?item.1133.5

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/benfica/franco-jara-jara-benfica-arsenal/1135522-1456.html

Not sure how reliable you'd call them but they seem genuine to me.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Vitoria de Setubal completed, courtesy of pedropt10

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showpost.php?p=774656&postcount=17

With just a couple of weeks before the ratings change, two teams remain now, Leixoes and Belenenses, the two which were relegated.

Don't forget to check out all the other teams in the main thread:

http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=44596

Keep in touch.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

http://web3.cmvm.pt/english/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR26763.pdf

100% guarantee' date=' unless he fails the medical tests like Cissokho in Milan[/quote']

Many thanks. :)

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hey DerbyPower, I've read some predictions for Portuguese League players.

You missed a player in Leixões squad: SEABRA, Pedro (75).

IMO, I would rate some players in a slight different way:

Lima (Belenenses) Your Prediction - 82 --> 82

My Prediction 82 --> 83

Collin (Vitória de Setúbal) Your Prediction - 76 --> 79/80

My Prediction - 76 --> 80/81

Cássio (União de Leiria) Your Prediction - 82 --> 83/84

My Prediction - 82 --> 84

Abel (Sporting CP) Your Prediction - 87 --> 87

My Prediction - 87 --> 86/85

Just sharing my point of view ;)

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hey DerbyPower' date=' I've read some predictions for Portuguese League players.

You missed a player in Leixões squad: SEABRA, Pedro (75).

IMO, I would rate some players in a slight different way:

Lima (Belenenses) Your Prediction - 82 --> 82

My Prediction 82 --> 83

Collin (Vitória de Setúbal) Your Prediction - 76 --> 79/80

My Prediction - 76 --> 80/81

Cássio (União de Leiria) Your Prediction - 82 --> 83/84

My Prediction - 82 --> 84

Abel (Sporting CP) Your Prediction - 87 --> 87

My Prediction - 87 --> 86/85

Just sharing my point of view ;)[/quote']

I'm going to answer you because i did the Leiria and Setubal predictions.

Lima: He's without a doubt a good player. Did a great perfomance against Porto in the cup. But he can't rise if his team ends up in 15th place.

Collin: did this one myself. He's a solid player, but SM uses statistics as well as justification for rating changes. Statistically, he hasn't done enough to deserve such a big rise and also because his team is 14th.

Cássio: also did this one myself. Cássio has made a good team with Carlao in Leiria, but i don't believe that he will rise +2 at once, i believe it will be 82 > 83 > 84. However, the 84 in one step is possible, yet unlikely.

Abel: Comparing his rating with others, he should 85 if not worse. To my perspective, Abel hasn't got what it takes to be in a club like Sporting, i.e. aspiring to be champion. Yet he has played enough to maintain his 87, as he was Sporting's first option for a good part of the season. I should remind you that he only lost the place to Joao Pereira for a couple of matches, he recovered the place later in the season.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hey DerbyPower' date=' I've read some predictions for Portuguese League players.

You missed a player in Leixões squad: SEABRA, Pedro (75).[/quote']

Leixoes is yet to be done. It's the only team missing. ;)

IMO, I would rate some players in a slight different way:

Lima (Belenenses) Your Prediction - 82 --> 82

My Prediction 82 --> 83

Could be, BUT... Belenenses were relegated. SM wont give an 83 rating to a player whose team was relegated.

Collin (Vitória de Setúbal) Your Prediction - 76 --> 79/80

My Prediction - 76 --> 80/81

pedropt10 did Setubal's. But I think 79/80 is quite on spot.

Cássio (União de Leiria) Your Prediction - 82 --> 83/84

My Prediction - 82 --> 84

União de Leiria didn't achieve Europa League qualification. 83/84 seems fine by me.

Abel (Sporting CP) Your Prediction - 87 --> 87

My Prediction - 87 --> 86/85

Abel played more than 2500 minutes this season. 87 seems fine, and it is a low rating already. But yes, I could change it to 87/86, at most.

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Re: PORTUGAL – 1st and 2nd Division extensive thread - Discussion Thread

Hi. What about :

MIGUEL VITOR' date=' Angelo CB-RBDC/DD 20 85

SIDNEI, Rechel CBDC 20 87[/quote']

Both of them have not featured too much this season and one or both will probably drop by one.

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