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Well i am pretty happy with it' date='My chairmen value for Ozil was just 10M and now it is 15M. :D[/quote']

Mines 14.5 million however i wont be selling him on,I will be selling on Kenia and Zambrano shortly though as i have several better players in there respective positions.

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It was obvious they would get 85 as Sm rarely give +6 +7s with a youngster. Dissappointed that Misimovic didn't rise.

well they gave a +6 for Stefan REINARTZ.But got to agree with you,they SM just dont give +6 or more to youngsters,Unless they play very well and are playing for Big clubs. :rolleyes: Or am i wrong?? :confused:

BTW:Should i keep Stefan REINARTZ now that he has rose?

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Marco Reus is still on 80 while being an important player for BM. I had a few players change to 82 in the second league, some from 7 or 8 place teams. I was expecting a rise of 3 or 4. At least Schieber was rerated. Compper does not rise, yet 3 of his team-mates go to 89. Bad form, he should have risen 1 as well.

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Marco Reus is still on 80 while being an important player for BM. I had a few players change to 82 in the second league' date=' some from 7 or 8 place teams. I was expecting a rise of 3 or 4. At least Schieber was rerated. Compper does not rise, yet 3 of his team-mates go to 89. Bad form, he should have risen 1 as well.[/quote']

I would love SM researchers for one time only to give a detailed explanation on some of the ratings in Germany because to me some seem unjustified while others didn't get minimum what they deserve in my opinion. :)

Fine overall just some.

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oh no' date=' my Bayern GK RENSING, Michael -2, now he's 87 now

I'm sawping him for [b']Robert GREEN [/b](west ham utd) is he any good? will he keep his rating/rise or drop?

Green i think is doing fine with West ham,thing is that they are having Fiancial Problems like my Walsall in EC 106 :mad:

He is the starting Keeper for west ham and is Sub for England NT.Should be keeping his ratings. :P

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Green i think is doing fine with West ham' date='thing is that they are having Fiancial Problems like my Walsall in EC 106 :mad:

He is the starting Keeper for west ham and is Sub for England NT.Should be keeping his ratings. :P[/quote']

Great, I was worried that he has long term injury or something may cause him dropping.

thank you xo

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Dzeko rose to 91 :eek:

I think 90 is okei

Misimovic did not rise to 90?Why?

Misimovic is/was already 90 - seems a bit stingy that he didn't get 91 though.

Dzeko got a deserved rise to 91 - he's widely regarded as one of the most sought after strikers in Europe. Not just on his club form, but also on international performances.

Grafite to 90 and Dzeko to 91 makes sense to me.

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it seems that SM is treating bundesliga the same way as they did do holland - lowering the ratings.

wolfsberg seems hard hit imo, for being champions, i think their ratings don't reflect that.

how on earth is it that benaglio hasn't rise, and grafite to 90, not touching mismovic is beyong me.

isn't ozil deserving of 91 too?

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rating change overall makes sense to me. only a few points:

1)does rakitic playing really that bad? i haven't imagined him dropping (though I sold it a month ago ^^)

2)Boateng rise 2 makes me quite happily surprised

3)muller only to 85??

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Misimovic is/was already 90 - seems a bit stingy that he didn't get 91 though.

Dzeko got a deserved rise to 91 - he's widely regarded as one of the most sought after strikers in Europe. Not just on his club form' date=' but also on international performances.

[b']Grafite to 90 [/b]and Dzeko to 91 makes sense to me.

I personally felt Grafite deserved 91 too, remember he was the Bundesliga's top scorer last season and has a CL hat trick already this season.

I can only think that his record of only 2 goals in 8 league games this season and his CL red card went against him.

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I personally felt Grafite deserved 91 too' date=' remember he was the Bundesliga's top scorer last season and has a CL hat trick already this season.

I can only think that his record of only 2 goals in 8 league games this season and his CL red card went against him.[/quote']

he was bundesliga player of the season too.

and no position change for elia?

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why didnt Marvin COMPPER go up. i just managed to get him in a gold championship, im gutted he should of went up +1

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it seems that SM is treating bundesliga the same way as they did do holland - lowering the ratings.

wolfsberg seems hard hit imo' date=' for being champions, i think their ratings don't reflect that.

how on earth is it that benaglio hasn't rise, and grafite to 90, not touching mismovic is beyong me.

isn't ozil deserving of 91 too?[/quote']

well FadedWolfz,I feel the same way as you feel,However i would also like to add on to muller as i felt SM was Unfair to him ,I think he should be having more than +5,Maybe a +7 why cos he deserve it. :D

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Cheap high risers (from 70's to 81)

Wolfgang Hesl (Hamburger SV) 75 -> 75-79 - rose to 78

Stefan Reinartz (Bayer Leverkusen) 74 -> 79-81 - rose to 80

Carlos Zambrano (FC Schalke 04) 80 -> 84/85 - rose to 84

Levan Kenia (FC Schalke 04) 80 -> 82-84 - rose to 82

Christoph Moritz (FC Schalke 04) 75 -> 80-82 - rose to 82

Lukas Schmitz (FC Schalke 04) 75 -> 77/78 - rose to 80

Holger Badstuber (Bayern München) 80 -> 85-87 - rose to 85

Thomas Müller (Bayern München) 80 -> 85/86 - rose to 80

Philipp Bargfrede (Werder Bremen) 78 -> 81/82 - rose to 83

Boris Vukcevic (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 75 -> 77/78 - rose to 77

Andre Schürrle (1. FSV Mainz 05) 72 -> 80-82 - rose to 80

Cheap risers from the 3. Liga

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Kevin Maek (Werder Bremen II) 70 -> 75/76 - rose to 74

Onur Ayik (Werder Bremen II) 73 -> 75/76 - rose to 74

High-rated risers (82 onwards)

Dennis Aogo (Hamburger SV) 86 -> 87/88 - rose to 88

Jerome Boateng (Hamburger SV) 87 -> 88/89 - rose to 89

Eljero Elia (Hamburger SV) 87 -> 88/89 - rose to 89

Benedikt Höwedes (FC Schalke 04) 86 -> 87/88 - rose to 88

Hans-Jörg Butt (Bayern München) 85 -> 87 - rose to 87

Sebastian Boenisch (Werder Bremen) 86 -> 87 - rose to 88

Isaac Vorsah (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 83 -> 84/85 - rose to 85

Tim Hoogland (1. FSV Mainz 05) 85 -> 86 - rose to 86

Nico Bungert (1. FSV Mainz 05) 84 -> 86 - rose to 85

Florian Heller (1. FSV Mainz 05) 84 -> 85/86 - rose to 85

Aristide Bance (1. FSV Mainz 05) 83 -> 85/86 - rose to 85

Marcel Schäfer (VfL Wolfsburg) 88 -> 89/90 - rose to 89

Christian Gentner (VfL Wolfsburg) 88 -> 89 - rose to 89

Grafite (VfL Wolfsburg) 89 -> 90/91 - rose to 90

Edin Dzeko (VfL Wolfsburg) 89 -> 90/91 - rose to 91

Possible risers (stay or +1)

Jonathan Pitroipa (Hamburger SV) 86 - didn't rise

Marcus Berg (Hamburger SV) 89 - didn't rise

Paolo Guerrero (Hamburger SV) 89 - didn't rise

Michal Kadlec (Bayer Leverkusen) 88 - didn't rise

Toni Kroos (Bayer Leverkusen) 85 -> 85-87 - rose to 86

Renato Augusto (Bayer Leverkusen) 89 - didn't rise

Arturo Vidal (Bayer Leverkusen) 88 - didn't rise

Stefan Kiessling (Bayer Leverkusen) 90 - didn't rise

Eren Derdiyok (Bayer Leverkusen) 86 - rose to 87

Daniel van Buyten (Bayern München) 90 - didn't rise

Manuel Neuer (FC Schalke 04) 90 - didn't rise

Alexander Baumjohann (Bayern München) 85 - didn't rise

Mesut Özil (Werder Bremen) 89 - rose to 90

Marko Marin (Werder Bremen) 89 - didn't rise

Aaron Hunt (Werder Bremen) 87 - rose to 88

Claudio Pizarro (Werder Bremen) 89 - didn't rise

Timo Hildbrand (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 88 - didn't rise

Andreas Beck (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 88 - rose to 89

Marvin Compper (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 87 - didn't rise

Sejad Salihovic (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 88 - rose to 89

Chinedu Obasi (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 87 - didn't rise

Demba Ba (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 88 - didn't rise

Diego Benaglio (VfL Wolfsburg) 89 - didn't rise

Sascha Riether (VfL Wolfsburg) 88 - didn't rise

Zvjezdan Misimovic (VfL Wolfsburg) 90 - didn't rise

Definite droppers (Get rid asap)

Alex Silva (Hamburger SV) 89 -> 88 - dropped to 88

Collin Benjamin (Hamburger SV) 87 -> 86 - dropped to 86

Bastian Reinhardt (Hamburger SV) 89 -> 88 - dropped to 88

Tomasz Zdebel (Bayer Leverkusen) 87 -> 86 - dropped to 86

Theofanis Gekas (Bayer Leverkusen) 89 -> 87 - dropped to 87

Albert Streit (FC Schalke 04) 88 -> 86 - dropped to 86

Michael Rensing (Bayern München) 89 -> 87 - dropped to 80

Christian Lell (Bayern München) 89 -> 87 - dropped to 87

Andreas Görlitz (Bayern München) 86 -> 85 - didn't drop

Breno (Bayern München) 87 -> 86 - dropped to 86

Andreas Ottl (Bayern München) 88 -> 87/86 - dropped to 87

Luca Toni (Bayern München) 94 -> 93/92 - dropped to 92

Daniel Jensen (Werder Bremen) 89 -> 88 - dropped to 88

Daniel Haas (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 86 -> 85 - rose to 85

Ramazan Özcan (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 85 -> 83/82 - dropped to 84

Matthias Jaissle (TSG 1899 Hoffenheim) 86 -> 85 - didn't drop

Paul Stalteri (Borussia Mönchengladbach) 85 -> 84 - didn't drop

Juan Arango (Borussia Mönchengladbach) 91 -> 90/89 - dropped to 90

Rodrigo Alvim (VfL Wolfsburg) 85 -> 83 - didn't drop

Ricardo Costa (VfL Wolfsburg) 87 -> 85 - didn't drop

Changes from today. Overall, I'm quite happy. Glad to see Schieber got at least 82 now. Other than that, no real shockers IMO.

And as already some Swiss players were rated, I guess that all German changes have been done now.

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Changes from today. Overall' date=' I'm quite happy. Glad to see Schieber got at least 82 now. Other than that, no real shockers IMO.

And as already some Swiss players were rated, I guess that all German changes have been done now.[/quote']

So Rakitic deserves to be 88?

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So Rakitic deserves to be 88?

From a Dortmund fan's point of view? Yes. I always thought that he was just wasted at Schalke where he was played on the wings. But even now under Magath who plays a diamond formation he doesn't cut it at the AM position. Not neccessarily the most expectable decision, but an understandable one.

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