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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I have managed to keep all my high 90s rated players happy. The key is let all have gametimes.

I do let all of mine have gametime, but clearly not the correct ratio as I have several unhappy on various levels.

If someone has an equation for how many players you can keep happy, and how to do it, it'd be very handy!

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I do let all of mine have gametime' date=' but clearly not the correct ratio as I have several unhappy on various levels.

If someone has an equation for how many players you can keep happy, and how to do it, it'd be very handy![/quote']

The best rated players would expect to play up to 75% of games in every positions. The second best would expect 65% of games and so on. Players played until 60 mins are considered as a full match. After 60 mins,it is half a match.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

The best rated players would expect to play up to 75% of games in every positions. The second best would expect 65% of games and so on. Players played until 60 mins are considered as a full match. After 60 mins' date='it is half a match.[/quote']

That's kind of what I thought tbh. With that in mind, I'm not sure how it's possible to keep 30 players happy? Maybe me maths isn't what it could be, but even if you get a decent distance in the cups - it's got to be tough to get players to hit those percentages? I'm struggling with 22 over 90s.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

That's kind of what I thought tbh. With that in mind' date=' I'm not sure how it's possible to keep 30 players happy? Maybe me maths isn't what it could be, but even if you get a decent distance in the cups - it's got to be tough to get players to hit those percentages? I'm struggling with 22 over 90s.[/quote']

I have been doing that for the past 3 seasons in sm with more than 22 players certainly without any players having a lack of games concern

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I would like to make a specific argument here

goalkeepers

i have a very successfull barcelona in a standard gameworld, i tell you this now it's a very competive setup.. an incredible ammount of good managers.. and an incredible ammount of good managers. {edit "teams"} smoked some ..... :)

i had peter cech, i sold him along with lucas leiva for manual neuer.. from one of my rival managers, a good deal for me i must say and a decent deal for him.

i also have joe hart who was unhappy for not playing at level two, i played him at the end of last season and managed to get his concern down to level one, this season ive had a very good league campaign and altough ive been somewhat fortunate in the league, the competitiveness of the league has seen 2nd place to way down the league having so few points between eachother as they take points of each other

HOWEVER joe hart despite playing an incredible ammount of games for me this season..

12 Barcelona Division 1 18 (1)

12 Barcelona World Champ Shield 1 (0)

12 Barcelona World Champ Cup 2 (0)

12 Barcelona SMFA Champions Cup 7 (0)

12 Barcelona SMFA Super Cup 1 (0)

TOTAL 29 starts 1sub after aprox 75% of the season has just gone to level two this week

manuaul neurer rated 93 and a little older has played..wait for it

12 Barcelona Division 1 14 (6)

12 Dortmund Division 1 4 (0)

12 Barcelona World Champ Cup 2 (0)

12 Dortmund SMFA Champions Cup (Group C) 2 (0)

12 Barcelona SMFA Champions Cup 2 (2)

TOTAL 24 starts 8 subs.. fracctionaly less but has not gone up to level one, but will this means that once nuerer ever does go to level one then surly then i will not be able to keep them both happy?

what if i had cassiles, still rather young in gk terms but a 95/96 standard, would it be fair for me to lose or not play him to keep hart? or de gea if went up to 90.. fair for me to have to play de gea rated 90 over cassiles or not have one backup gk in my team thats 90 rated.. lossing cassiles in the process as he goes to that team im rivals with leaving me with a 90 or 89 gk

Abit too realistic? fair for me to lose cassiles or BUFFON? to a rival manager or lose my PROSPECT GK for when BUFFON RETIRE/DROP RATE to them and then when buffon retire etc im screwed cause all i have for my best GK is rated 89.... no fair boys..

im being punished for being competetent, and like i said there are long term good managers in this setup, ive devolped some not so friendly perhaps rivalry with some managers/teams and because my team is so strong i only need the crop of the crop, but if another manager has this player i want its impossible for me to get him, id like hazrd ronaldo in my team but not possible as u mite think, so then i lose buffon (if i had him as my gk) for cash..r some players i dont really need, if i had kept buffon happy up to that point it would mean maybe id only have an 89 replacement.

but somebody tell me now, i must sell neymar and neuer/cassiles/buffon etc or balotelli just to get hazard? because i cant keep these strikers like i previosly stated and then play hart/degea as my number one?

id never even do that deal losing my gk even to get ronaldo, simply not worth it,

if you think ud like tha deal.. i say why you selling ronaldo or messi if your a good team? imo that goes aginst what SM is about trying to get the best team possible across ur first 11 {kinda not how i play the game if im been honest hah the irony of it} arsene wenger is kinda my style somewhat.. jus a wee bit better ha, i guess my morals are not quiet up to the french mans glasses

THANK YOU STE FOR GIVING ME MILLIONS , unlike the arsenal shareholders lool

or did i raise fund by sell cassiles, playing 88/89 gk and buying no-one to replace..

in my leage i will win noting with a gk like this..

follow arsene approach in game, and win noting, = pointless.. = standards = pointless.. but still fun :) huff puff puff""

mvilla concern down to level up, busquets say goodbye barce.. i dont have busquests.. tell me NOW lads will i sell nuerar? get him? but then lose mvilla.. good deal me?

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

There are so few over 90 rated keepers in the game I dont really have a problem with it being difficult to keep only one over 90 rated happy.

In real life Hart (rated high 80s at the time) needed to play competetive first team games which is why Man City sold Given (90 something at the time) who was a very decent keeper so that Hart could develop.

Man Utd bought De Gea - an 80 something keeper to replace 94 Van Der Sar. De Gea will be 90 soon but is a slower rise that people expected because he took time to settle.

You have Neuer who is going to be a 93 rated keeper or higher for years to come. Keepers currently never get sent off, never injured (in my 4 years experience on SM) so really you dont have a problem here because you dont need Hart and Neuer.

My point is with the specialist position of Keeper you cant keep a ready made back up to replace them - just like has happened at the Manchester clubs. (Also Arsenal with Scezeney repalcing Almunia and many other examples....)

If you really want to keep 2 keepers happy you have to rotate them every other game or only play one each season or sub them on each game. In short its not worth the hassle and wages when your outfield is more important for overall rating.

The game allows you to keep an 89 rated back up which dont seem to generate concerns when your starting 11 average rating is very high which isnt too bad considering you'l never need to play them.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

If someone has cassiles, they must make choice have him sold or keep him & then when he retires your replacment is an 89 gk.

Thats obsurd, i understand you point about so few 90+ gk's but if you have managed to build a good team and then your punished like this its not really worth building such a team..

Not like im hogging, i regulary sell 92/93 gk's in some my teams cause i have a suitable replacement & from this i can get maybe a player like hazard.. but ultimatly my 1st choice gk but be sold for a lesser new forst choice or my 89 youth gk.

Which results in my strong team ive had for 5 years having an 89 maybe.. and rival team getting a 93+ gk. not logical were i stand.

Abd you say ur first 11 avg is more importnt, i completly disagree.. there is very little difference in first 11 avg's in most setups espcially standards, losing a TOP gk and having to play an 89 or 92 gk for me its more important to have cassiles buffon then having sneijder busquests etc.

using cassiles perhaps is not BEST example or even neuer because there age is healty but if i have buffon and de gea rated 90* its a tough tough call, espcially when buffion is aging and de gea maybe a bit uncertain how good he can become.. not fair im forced to make such a choice.

its have good gk now, or have good gk for future.. this is .. its a game and imho a bit harsh.

SM should not force top teams to make a choice wether they want strong team now and weak in future, or weaker team now..

if this was a gold gameworld and u had buffon and de gea what wud u do? or if u had cssiles de gea what wud you do..

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

Imo its only fair that GK's rated 90 or higher who don't play get concerns especially BECAUSE there are so few high rated GK's. If GK's didn't get those concerns teams could easily keep 2/3 90+ rated goalies which means that 3/4 teams in a GW can together have the best 12 GK's around which is absolutely unfair to the rest of the Game World.

Just learn to manage your things and try to play it smart. Make sure you buy GK's with high potential at a very young age with a low rating so that by the time your current 90+ GK is very old or retires you can replace him with the younger one. Its the biggest challenge there is in keeping talents imo as field players are more easily replaced and rise faster usually.

I see absolutely no problem.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I think there isn't really an issue with goalkeepers. I actually have Casillas and De Gea and I'll be having to make that tricky decision myself soon enough (I'll be sticking with Casillas almost certainly).

I think it's more an issue with outfield players. Outfield players cannot play league games and cup games without getting knackered. In reality, they quite often do, and therefore fewer players are needed. You essentially need two teams to play this game, but I'm now finding it very hard to keep them both 90+.

If fitnesses were more like reality, I wouldn't mind losing some players and working with a smaller squad.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I think there isn't really an issue with goalkeepers. I actually have Casillas and De Gea and I'll be having to make that tricky decision myself soon enough (I'll be sticking with Casillas almost certainly).

I think it's more an issue with outfield players. Outfield players cannot play league games and cup games without getting knackered. In reality' date=' they quite often do, and therefore fewer players are needed. You essentially need two teams to play this game, but I'm now finding it very hard to keep them both 90+.

If fitnesses were more like reality, I wouldn't mind losing some players and working with a smaller squad.[/quote']

I have 2 squads to handle 3 competitions for the past 3 Sm seasons. I have also Valdes,VDS(When he have not retired yet),without having a single Gk to have a concern.I played both in 75% of matches in a season. Maybe i am very lucky that my players do not leave my club because of concerns issue.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I know the idea of concerns and i think in principle it is a good idea BUT i also feel it is flawed quite heavily. I have a player that has played in every game this season and half of last season yet they still keep developing a concern for lack of games, the level just keeps going up.

I am no doubt going to lose this player without being able to actualy do any thing about it which to me is extremely unfair. I have done all that is possible to get the concern level down yet it still goes up!

I believe that there should be an option to promise the player you will play them in games once they get to level 3-4, if they do not start to get more games or do not play 70% of the seasons games after this then they are transfer listed.

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I have four eastern European risers with the rating of 70 to 74 who have a lack of games concern when my teams rating is 89. Why should they be concerned' date=' why should they play.

Can anyone explain for me?[/quote']

Reading the help section I discovered there are two kind of similar concerns:

- Lack of games

- Lack of opportunities

Maybe you should check this out, because I think your 70ies rated players might raise concerns for lack of opportunity, that means they are your fifth or sixth choice for a role, and they're afraid you'll never let them play.

Cheers

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I know the idea of concerns and i think in principle it is a good idea BUT i also feel it is flawed quite heavily. I have a player that has played in every game this season and half of last season yet they still keep developing a concern for lack of games' date=' the level just keeps going up.

I am no doubt going to lose this player without being able to actualy do any thing about it which to me is extremely unfair. I have done all that is possible to get the concern level down yet it still goes up!

I believe that there should be an option to promise the player you will play them in games once they get to level 3-4, if they do not start to get more games or do not play 70% of the seasons games after this then they are transfer listed.[/quote']

I am having the same issue. I had a player at level one, so I started subbing him in, he jumped to level 2 so I started playing him in all competitions since and he has jumped from level 2 to level 3 in a short time. If you start addressing the problem shouldn't he at the least freeze at level 2 since I began addressing his concern? Looks like I will lose him regardless of what I do.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I also have a player in another team that has had a level 1 concern for over a year now, even though they have played in over 75% of games in that whole year. SM state there is no bug but surely going by the help section he should of dropped his concern by now?! The help section states:-

For example if a player was on a Level 2 concern on Turn 1. He expects to play 70% of games and you start playing him from Turn 1 in 7/10 games. Then come Turn 20 and he has played 14 games then he will be happy and his concern will drop to Level 1. If however you did not play him and then on Turn 20 he went to a Level 3 and then on Turn 30 went to Level 4 and then you started playing him you may struggle to keep him because by Turn 38 he would have wanted to have played 28 games that season but you can only play him in 8. Then by turn 38 he will demand a transfer despite playing the last 8 games as he has become concerned about lack of playing time in the current and previous season.

I am having the same issue. I had a player at level one' date=' so I started subbing him in, he jumped to level 2 so I started playing him in all competitions since and he has jumped from level 2 to level 3 in a short time. If you start addressing the problem shouldn't he at the least freeze at level 2 since I began addressing his concern? Looks like I will lose him regardless of what I do.[/quote']

I think that would be a good idea, if you play them in say 5 games or more in a row then the level freeze's.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I also have a player in another team that has had a level 1 concern for over a year now' date=' even though they have played in over 75% of games in that whole year. SM state there is no bug but surely going by the help section he should of dropped his concern by now?! The help section states:-

[i']For example if a player was on a Level 2 concern on Turn 1. He expects to play 70% of games and you start playing him from Turn 1 in 7/10 games. Then come Turn 20 and he has played 14 games then he will be happy and his concern will drop to Level 1. If however you did not play him and then on Turn 20 he went to a Level 3 and then on Turn 30 went to Level 4 and then you started playing him you may struggle to keep him because by Turn 38 he would have wanted to have played 28 games that season but you can only play him in 8. Then by turn 38 he will demand a transfer despite playing the last 8 games as he has become concerned about lack of playing time in the current and previous season.[/i]

I think that would be a good idea, if you play them in say 5 games or more in a row then the level freeze's.

They also state they are not going to tell you what you exactly need to do to bring a players concern level down. I just solved my problem. My player in question was Tony Kroos. Turns out Nasri was available so I just bought him and sold Kroos. I wont have a problem getting Nasri's 93 into games as opposed to Kroos who is a 90. I had options better than Kroos and he wasnt worth keeping or building my game day squad around his unhappiness.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I have a player who has had a Level 1 concern at lack of games for about a year now. I start him in every single game - he has started the last 18 in a row. I can't possibly play him any more than I am already. Will his concern ever go away?

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I have a player who has had a Level 1 concern at lack of games for about a year now. I start him in every single game - he has started the last 18 in a row. I can't possibly play him any more than I am already. Will his concern ever go away?

It will. I think I'm right in saying concerns get updated in batches, so maybe twice (guessing here!) a season every player's concerns will be reassessed. As it's been a while for your guy I'd imagine it'll go soon :)

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

In my opinion Player Concern List is updated to slow. I own and play setup called Scout's Challenge and you cannot buy players over rating 89.

Now here is a problem:

- In real life you cannot keep 50 simmilar players happy till the end of season

- and there is a club in setup with 50 players with rating 89 or +/-1

- you can rotate up to cca 25 players (injuries, bans, etc)

- i would expect at least 10 players requesting a transfer if not 20

- this club doesn't loan players

This new feature should prevent teams from 'harvesting' players or building large teams. It does not solve the problem as i have read in this thread.

I hope SM will change the speed of player concern to more realistic than current.

If you have 3 Players with same rating, one should reach LEVEL 5 at the end of season if he doesn't play 40 or 50% of the games.

Don't you think the same?

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

Help Please. Hoping someone from SM can answer this, because the wording in the help documentation is not clear.

Do Cup and Shield matches count an equal weighting towards player concerns ?

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

Help Please. Hoping someone from SM can answer this' date=' because the wording in the help documentation is not clear.[/color']

Do Cup and Shield matches count an equal weighting towards player concerns ?

Yes. All matches, other than friendlies, count equally.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

Yes. All matches' date=' other than friendlies, count equally.[/quote']

Thanks very much for the response.

Here is the area in the help section that is confusing :

SMFA Competitions

Player concerns are not be affected by SMFA competitions within Standard Game Worlds and Custom Game Worlds.

I have no idea what they are trying to say with this. Are Cup and Shields part of SMFA competitions ? Does the above statement in the SM help section mean that they are NOT included when it comes to player concerns? Can someone from SM please answer all of this.

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Re: Player Concerns (please read the Online Help if looking for help)

I think the understanding is that league games, cup and shield games DO count towards player concerns.

The SMFA competitions (which I suppose are the equivalent of European games), that only Gold Managers can control - DON'T count towards player concerns. Neither do International matches or any friendlies.

I don't know this to be fact - but it's my understanding of it.

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