KirkyyLUFC 12,390 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Kirky.How do you know what iv taken into consideration. Im just saying he was bloody good before his move' date=' people are making out as if he was some randomer. He wasnt, not at all mate. Im not saying he hasnt developed ( please tell me where i have said anything along those lines ), im just saying I dont think Wenger has made him the player he is today, the sole reason rather.[/quote'] I didn't say the sole reason either. You're making out he could of gone to any top side and turned out to be the player he is today. IMO there are three key aspects as to why Arsenal as a club, (not just Wenger) made him the player he is today. 1. Wenger. The guy is amazing at flourishing young talent, letting them bloom, bedding them in and bringing the best out of a player. Wenger has exceptional man-management skills and he integrates this well into nurturing young players. IMO he is second only to SAF in bringing the best out of players. 2. He is French. There are numerous French players at arsenal, as is the manager. I think this contributed in making the player feel at home from the off and settled him in well. By being surrounded by his own nationality, he didn't really need a "settling in period" so to speak and this is why Wenger thrust him into the first team straight away. 3. Fabregas. This guy is amazing and he will have played a huge part in making Nasri the player he is today. Same situation, different player. Fabregas was already an established player and a vital cog in Arsenals midfield. He will have taught Nasri a whole lot about the English game and matured him as he played. I think if Fabregas went to Barca 1/2 years earlier, I reckon Nasri wouldn't be half the player he is today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaoaM 9,865 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Does it really matter what could or coudlnt of happend. No one can give an answer as NO ONE would know what would happen if Nasri went somewhere else. Such a pointless debate. No one will ever be right. He joined Arsenal and did well. Just end this awful debate please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Will i able to sleep tonight? i dont know tbh lol, exciting times for tommorow thats for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Villa99 71 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Arsenal agree terms with Rennes for £25m sale of Yann M'Vila Jack-THFC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lordy -RBA- 4,055 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Arsenal agree terms with Rennes for £25m sale of Yann M'Vila Like a link to YouTube would confirm that Mr Troll go sod off. Same problem HAYD3N still up, can't sleep rofl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Like a link to YouTube would confirm that Mr Troll go sod off.Same problem HAYD3N still up' date=' can't sleep rofl.[/quote'] Ive not attempted to sleep just yet, butterflies atm anyways lol. Feel like 10 year old waiting for santa to deliver the goods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Like a link to YouTube would confirm that Mr Troll go sod off.Same problem HAYD3N still up' date=' can't sleep rofl.[/quote'] Might as well sleep. I doubt any news will come in the next 8 hours and if it does then you have something good to wake up to. Im just excited that we are looking good to get M'Vila, the big suprise will be Hazard if we get him. Gervinho and Hazard upfront, there will be some chemistry there. M'Vila the beast holding it down with Song in the midfield Oooh:D Looking forward to the Swansea game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Might as well sleep. I doubt any news will come in the next 8 hours and if it does then you have something good to wake up to. I Know there will be no news until early in the morning but its just too exciting so wont be able to sleep lol, Got a feeling we have atleast 3 more signings coming in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread I Know there will be no news until early in the morning but its just too exciting so wont be able to sleep lol' date=' Got a feeling we have atleast 3 more signings coming in.[/quote']Who do you think? I think M'Vila for sure and probably Hazard and Samba/Cahill even though we have Mertesacker. We should sell off Squillaci now because there is no chance in him playing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaoaM 9,865 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Who do you think?I think M'Vila for sure and probably Hazard and Samba/Cahill even though we have Mertesacker. We should sell off Squillaci now because there is no chance in him playing. Got a good feeling we will sign Willian aswell. Last year of contract, so Shakhtar may be forced to sell. If not his team-mate Jadson. One will join imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chambo 3,330 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Got a good feeling we will sign Willian aswell. Last year of contract' date=' so Shakhtar may be forced to sell. If not his team-mate Jadson. One will join imo[/quote']Theres actually a lot of rumors we're going to sign Hazard, highly unlikely but theres a lot of it out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Got a good feeling we will sign Willian aswell. Last year of contract' date=' so Shakhtar may be forced to sell. If not his team-mate Jadson. One will join imo[/quote']One of those would be good but if we sign one of those then I dont know what the likelihood would be of getting Hazard since one of those would be the playmaker. I would prefer Hazard but Willian/Jadson would cost less which is what Wenger likes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Theres actually a lot of rumors we're going to sign Hazard' date=' highly unlikely but theres a lot of it out there.[/quote']I really hope we acquire Hazards services. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Who do you think?I think M'Vila for sure and probably Hazard and Samba/Cahill even though we have Mertesacker. We should sell off Squillaci now because there is no chance in him playing. M'vila would be absolutly amazing and id take samba and ship out Djourou, and as Maom said Willian or Jadson will be here tommorow no doubts :D:D Personally think hazard is unlikely, I Have a feeling wenger is gonna buy the right players 99% but i have a 1% feeling he may let us down.. Roll on tommorow!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread M'vila would be absolutly amazing and id take samba and ship out Djourou' date=' and as Maom said Willian or Jadson will be here tommorow no doubts :D:DPersonally think hazard is unlikely, I Have a feeling wenger is gonna buy the right players 99% but i have a 1% feeling he may let us down.. Roll on tommorow!! [/quote'] Things are looking better, getting excited myself now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Just wanna keep talking about our signings ATM, Mertesacker lacks pace but I'm certain he's gonna be class for us, top defender and we will finally stop Stoke with their petty throw ins, I've seen park play but not enough to properly judge, good at finishing and has a good work rate and should put in a good shift for us I think. Andre santos, same again not seen much of him to judge, he's good going forward and can whip in a good cross not to mention his skills, great at set pieces aswell, think he'll do good for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Just wanna keep talking about our signings ATM' date=' Mertesacker lacks pace but I'm certain he's gonna be class for us, top defender and we will finally stop Stoke with their petty throw ins, I've seen park play but not enough to properly judge, good at finishing and has a good work rate and should put in a good shift for us I think. Andre santos, same again not seen much of him to judge, he's good going forward and can whip in a good cross not to mention his skills, great at set pieces aswell, think he'll do good for us.[/quote']Yeh agree on Mertesacker about him being slow but will be class. Just fear that Santos will lack good defending, the attacking dont bother me. Defending comes first and I just hope he doesnt be like Clichy. RvP will still be the boss of set peices considering he is also left footed with Santos chipping in here and there. If we also get M'Vila, Samba and Hazard or Jadson, I cant think anything else other than it will be a success overall in terms of at least getting a CL spot even though this season is more competitive than ever when it comes to who will get in the top 4. Now all we need to do is just wait and see if these are the players that Wengers brings in because I would be fine with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePlayMaker 551 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Yeh agree on Mertesacker about him being slow but will be class. Just fear that Santos will lack good defending' date=' the attacking dont bother me. Defending comes first and I just hope he doesnt be like Clichy. RvP will still be the boss of set peices considering he is also left footed with Santos chipping in here and there. If we also get M'Vila, Samba and Hazard or Jadson, I cant think anything else other than it will be a success overall in terms of at least getting a CL spot even though this season is more competitive than ever when it comes to who will get in the top 4.Now all we need to do is just wait and see if these are the players that Wengers brings in because I would be fine with them.[/quote'] But when its a free kick in a crossing position, surely you'd prefer RVP in the box... I still think you're lacking that creative park in the middle. Now you've signed a LB and a CB I can't see any more defenders joining btw. Hazard wont be joining either, and if you can get a quality AM to replace Fabbers, then you're team over all would have improved this season IMO.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread But when its a free kick in a crossing position' date=' surely you'd prefer RVP in the box...I still think you're lacking that creative park in the middle. Now you've signed a LB and a CB I can't see any more defenders joining btw. Hazard wont be joining either, and if you can get a quality AM to replace Fabbers, then you're team over all would have improved this season IMO..[/quote'] Why? Van Persie isnt the best header of the ball. Also we might be bringing in Jadson/Willian as the playmaker or Hazard who can be a quality playmaker but he will cost a lot which I cant see Wenger spending a lot to be honest. He is struggling over M'Vila's price. I think we could do with one more CB though cause Djourou stinks lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePlayMaker 551 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Why? Van Persie isnt the best header of the ball. Also we might be bringing in Jadson/Willian as the playmaker or Hazard who can be a quality playmaker but he will cost a lot which I cant see Wenger spending a lot to be honest. He is struggling over M'Vila's price. I think we could do with one more CB though cause Djourou stinks lol. He's a poacher, you'd want him in and around the box, incase the ball breaks to him, and tbh, Mertesacker, Song and Verm are probs the only players better than him in the air. lol yeah, but Wegner wont allow you to have Verm Merte Djourou Squillaci and somebody else I'm forgetting about Jadson and Willian are okay... but not the level that you need IMO Shame there hasnt been much talk about Honda Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hayden19 6,995 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Shame there hasnt been much talk about Honda Wouldn't rule anything out? Andre santos was only linked with us once last month and out of the blue he's set to join. Koscielny also last season, but he wasn't linked once, seems more media attention wenger stays away most of the time which is a worry when u have the likes of M'vila being linked everyday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
123_ABC 9,305 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread He's a poacher' date=' you'd want him in and around the box, incase the ball breaks to him, and tbh, Mertesacker, Song and Verm are probs the only players better than him in the air.lol yeah, but Wegner wont allow you to have Verm Merte Djourou Squillaci and somebody else I'm forgetting about Jadson and Willian are okay... but not the level that you need IMO Shame there hasnt been much talk about Honda[/quote'] Hmm he is a poacher but to be honest, his free kicks are lethal. He is the best FK taker in our squad and has a big chance of scoring from them. Honda would be good but I dont mind as long as we get a decent playmaker who can do the job. I wish we get Hazard even if its impossible. Right now options are limited. It depends if teams are willing to sell top playmakers for a good price. Kosc is the one you are forgetting about btw in your list. I think we can do with as many CBs as possible right now though since most of our CBs get injured, I dont want another crisis again and I certainly dont want Djourou having to fill in for big matches if we have two CBs out. If we have to much we can probably sell off Squillaci/Djourou cause I dont like either. Squillaci is no more use anymore to be honest and Djourou isnt showing any signs of being a quality CB, he is lost half the time and his awareness of attackers around him is poor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chambo 3,330 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread But a £22m bid for Rennes holding midfielder Yann M'Vila was snubbed and there was no movement on a £12m offer for winger Marvin Martin from Sochaux.Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/3784588/Arsene-Wenger-hits-panic-button.html#ixzz1WZhDrrXP Just read this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hazza Arsenal 811 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread Last day of the transfer window I don't know if we can get any more signings but at least we got some players in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salty 1,274 Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Re: Official Arsenal Thread http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/Arsenal-Transfer-Blow-Mertesacker-Failed-Medical.stm Oh my, what a blow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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