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You contributed to a very enjoyable match today.

A few points. You did play with 4 experienced defenders. All CB's though. Which was always going to be a struggle. Your midfield three were poor though. Arteta was the better of the three and playing as a holding CM suits him. Ramsey annoyed me! Gave the ball away cheaply sooo many times it was unreal! Granted' date=' the pressure from City on the ball was good but at times both Ramsey and Song made terrible choices for a pass.

Not sure why Walcott was upset at being dragged off, but then seeing Arshavin's contribution I could see why. :P [b']Walcott is over-rated[/b] though. Arshavin is just poo, due to a lack of confidence maybe. Gervinho makes good runs and gets into areas where he could hurt teams but has NO end product at the minute. Like ourselves and Obertan, how long can you wait for him to make the impact he has the potential to. (Not saying they are in the same class but its the same situation :o. Obertan is poooo!)

On the whole though, you could of got a point out of that which is encouraging. Just hope Djourou and the bean-pole aren't seriously injured.

everyone seems to say walcott is overrated but overrated by who??? as it sonds like not many people rate him very highly at all.

In fairness ' date=' those fouls are necessarily , he does a superb job holding the midfield , no one can take his place ! IMO , he's in top 3 best DM's in the world ! :)

Yeah , he is ! hopefully we'll see Benayoun and Oxlade instead of Walcott ![/quote']

i agree i am a big, big fan of song and what he does for arsenal can not be overestimated, he is a very very good player and a much improved player deffencivly and going forward. but could have well been sent off today

also i agree i would like to see AOC and yossi more but instead of arshavin. i feel walcott still should be starting most matches as he is playing reasonably well this year and combining with RVP well. but 1 in 3 games for example i would like to see AOC given a start instead of walcott or gervinho who were both very disapointing today imo. AW does not want to rush him but he surely has to be ready now, he is as redy as wilshere was at the begining of last year, so i dont see why he is not at least on the bench.

arsenal need to get rid of arshavin, as soon as he goes AW will get a replacement but he wont untill he goes as he does not like to have too many players in the squad because of wages. a player like eden hazard in would be a dream and a player arsenal need more of, someone to unlock a defence.

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He really didn't. He had a good 20 minutes' date=' during which he piddled up a simple pass to Battyotelli. Typical Nasri performance.[/quote']

I disagree. He popped up all over the place in your half and was generally very useful around your box. He was one of our better attacking threats today.

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I disagree. He popped up all over the place in your half and was generally very useful around your box. He was one of our better attacking threats today.

nasri was not all that today, he was decent but not all that good. and there were many better performers than him today. had good spells but thats it.

SS gave kompany the MOTM, probably about right.

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nasri was not all that today' date=' he was decent but not all that good. and there were many better performers than him today. had good spells but thats it.

[b']SS[/b] gave kompany the MOTM, probably about right.

I always think it's better to spell out SKY Sports, rather then shorten it to SS. Two different things (although perhaps not that different)

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I missed the game so 1-0 isn't a bad loss I guess the United fans were expecting better :rolleyes:.

All boasting and bragging aside.

You guys played well - 5 Live thought City were the better team (as did I inside the ground).

We 'just' edged it - which is something you guys can take from the game considering you had no specialist full backs playing.

At the start of the game I was worried Zabaleta might struggle with Walcotts pace - fortunately though Zabs played wll and Walcott didn't even show up.

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Ladies and gentlemen - todays Etihad Man or the Match - SAMIR NASRI!!

Love it :)

Was he' date='seriously.....?

everyone seems to say walcott is overrated but overrated by who??? as it sonds like not many people rate him very highly at all.

I never really got that,too many people say he's so overrated he can be underrated at times.

I think before when he was younger he was slightly overrated. As many people know Walcott was a kind of rushed player due to him going to the world cup in 2006. I don't think he's as good as he could have been. I can't see him being a striker on a regular basis until he can improve he's finishing.

Some people do overate him but it seems loads of people say he's overrated he's getting a bit underrated.

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I always think it's better to spell out SKY Sports' date=' rather then shorten it to SS. Two different things (although perhaps not that different)[/quote']

yer i looked back at that and thought i look weird and yer, i agree. will call it sky or sky sports in future.B)

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Of course but for a loss it wasn't so bad if you get what I mean? (wait why am I saying this I haven't even seen the game yet' date='nvm?)[/quote']

Even when you see the game, you'll probably still think it an "honourable" defeat as we played ok. As far as i'm concerned though, 1-0 or 8-2, a loss is a loss and it stinks.

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It was a brave effort by Arsenal, they don't look like an away side. But despite how hard some players work and try to impress, it just shows the lack of quality against a star-sided team like Man City, especially on the attack.

Goalkeeping:

Szczesny. Amongst the Top 5 EPL keepers. Enough said.

Defence:

Arsenal defence wasn't not too bad, considering they played 4 CBs with no proper flank support in the attack. But as I always believed, we can use one more solid premier league defender.

-> Cahill, Samba, Vertonghen (Budget 15m)

Midfield:

The midfield is average. Ramsey is an average player, but he has time in his side. When Wilshere comes back, the midfield will be fine, however Arteta is getting a bit old so a signing can help. Not that urgent though. We have talented players coming up like Frimpong and Coquelin. But they seriously need more games to shine.

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)

Wings:

Gervinho and Walcott. Walcott has been inconsistent, some times he's very good, but yesterday he is invisible. Gervinho although has more of the balls, his dribbling is going nowhere, and the passes and shots are mostly wrong decisions.

Where is AOC? I had rather gamble on him when things don't go well. A 15M signing nowhere to be seen, come on! Arshavin is a goner, he doesn't even have that 5mins of magic in him anymore too. Arsenal being linked to many attacking midfield talents and wingers, if only we can get one of them, we'll be up there. We clearly lack attacking talent and options.

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)

Strikers:

RVP, RVP, RVP. We only have 1 proper striker.

Chamakh don't seem to fit EPL, perhaps going back to Ligue 1 will be best for him. Park can be a back up, but that means we're still short of at least 1 good striker.

Many rumours we've secured Podolski signature. I'm not sure about that. But that is a quality we need. Henry has also being linked with a January loan return to Arsenal.

-> Podolski, Kalou, Thierry Henry, Jovetic (Budget 10-20m)

We have enough transfer budget to ship in talented players we need to put ourselves in firm position to challenge with top ability at all fronts. 50M is what we've been told. Use them Wenger, at least half of it this January for a fine signing. We can't last till the end of the campaign with the current team. A good signing will also show our current players ambition.

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It was a brave effort by Arsenal' date=' they don't look like an away side. But despite how hard some players work and try to impress, it just shows the lack of quality against a star-sided team like Man City, especially on the attack.

[b']Midfield:[/b]

The midfield is average. Ramsey is an average player, but he has time in his side. When Wilshere comes back, the midfield will be fine, however Arteta is getting a bit old so a signing can help. Not that urgent though. We have talented players coming up like Frimpong and Coquelin. But they seriously need more games to shine.

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)

Where is AOC? I had rather gamble on him when things don't go well. A 15M signing nowhere to be seen, come on! Arshavin is a goner, he doesn't even have that 5mins of magic in him anymore too. Arsenal being linked to many attacking midfield talents and wingers, if only we can get one of them, we'll be up there. We clearly lack attacking talent and options.

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)

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Agree with a lot there.

Arsene won't buy another centre half feels he has a full house

AOC - he won't rush him doesn't like to burn out players early unless absolutely has to. I get your point best option but not gonna happen

Gotze forget it they would't sell for 50m and they plan to spend big in the summer/ Vargas too old for Wenger may get 1-2 season from him but for sale/Marin too small for us and also just not good enough/

Now REUS I feel the same level as Van Persie at that age, loads of raw talent plays better when playing off Hanke but could play RVP role in time. Also we need to plan for RVP not signing....Reus covers all criteria...He's young enough for wenger and for sale at 18.5 million euros now if he can spend 12million on AOC he should definitely be looking at this Here's hoping from me...Would Love It

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I'm just gonna comment on the suggestions you made ..

Goalkeeping:

Szczesny. Amongst the Top 5 EPL keepers. Enough said.

Defence:-> Cahill' date=' Samba, Vertonghen (Budget 15m)

[u']Why buy another Center Back when we have four ? A LB is what we need ! [/u]

Midfield:

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)

The only on capable of playing for Arsenal at the moment is M'vila ! though I think he's a DM , song is doing a great job at Dm , we don't need him ! Parejo is indeed a good player , watched him play last night .. He has the quality , but England won't suit him !Wings:

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)

Please tell me you're joking with the ones in bold ! Marin , Martin and Reus seem to be the easiests options ! I don't see the other ones leaving for less than 40 Million ! If the 30 million price tag on Goetze is true , we should definately get him ( Chelsea interested as well )

Strikers:

RVP, RVP, RVP. We only have 1 proper striker.

-> Podolski, Kalou, Thierry Henry, Jovetic (Budget 10-20m)

Kalou - Just no ! Jovetic - Isn't the same player after his injury ! Henry - A loan , nothing more , and I'm pretty sure he won't get many minutes ! Podolski - The Perfect signing , Wenger denied the speculations though :(

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Now it's my go to comment about this :D

It was a brave effort by Arsenal' date=' they don't look like an away side. But despite how hard some players work and try to impress, it just shows the lack of quality against a star-sided team like Man City, especially on the attack.

[b']Goalkeeping:[/b]

Szczesny. Amongst the Top 5 EPL keepers. Enough said.

Defence:

Arsenal defence wasn't not too bad, considering they played 4 CBs with no proper flank support in the attack. But as I always believed, we can use one more solid premier league defender.

-> Cahill, Samba, Vertonghen (Budget 15m)

It's won't happen Wenger has given up on both Cahill and Samba also as mentioned we have enough CB.

EDIT Wenger says he may need to buy a CB for back up due to injuries.

Midfield:

The midfield is average. Ramsey is an average player, but he has time in his side. When Wilshere comes back, the midfield will be fine, however Arteta is getting a bit old so a signing can help. Not that urgent though. We have talented players coming up like Frimpong and Coquelin. But they seriously need more games to shine.

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)

Song and Frimpong is decent enough to fill DM so I don't see the point of M'vila atm. The others mentioned I doubt.

Wings:

Gervinho and Walcott. Walcott has been inconsistent, some times he's very good, but yesterday he is invisible. Gervinho although has more of the balls, his dribbling is going nowhere, and the passes and shots are mostly wrong decisions.

Where is AOC? I had rather gamble on him when things don't go well. A 15M signing nowhere to be seen, come on! Arshavin is a goner, he doesn't even have that 5mins of magic in him anymore too. Arsenal being linked to many attacking midfield talents and wingers, if only we can get one of them, we'll be up there. We clearly lack attacking talent and options.

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)

The ones in bold make me want to smash my head onto a wall but Taarabt? seriously? I can't imagine that! The others maybe possibly although Eriksen I have a few doubts over and Granero a possible loan might work. I'd love for us to sign Reus he's just awesome!

Strikers:

RVP, RVP, RVP. We only have 1 proper striker.

Chamakh don't seem to fit EPL, perhaps going back to Ligue 1 will be best for him. Park can be a back up, but that means we're still short of at least 1 good striker.

Many rumours we've secured Podolski signature. I'm not sure about that. But that is a quality we need. Henry has also being linked with a January loan return to Arsenal.

-> Podolski, Kalou, Thierry Henry, Jovetic (Budget 10-20m)

Kalou...... :eek:..... Podolski is what we need although I wouldn't mind a loan bid for Henry.

We have enough transfer budget to ship in talented players we need to put ourselves in firm position to challenge with top ability at all fronts. 50M is what we've been told. Use them Wenger, at least half of it this January for a fine signing. We can't last till the end of the campaign with the current team. A good signing will also show our current players ambition.

Hazard and Gotze could take over half the budget!

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LOL I love that!

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It was a brave effort by Arsenal' date=' they don't look like an away side. But despite how hard some players work and try to impress, it just shows the lack of quality against a star-sided team like Man City, especially on the attack.

[b']Goalkeeping:[/b]

Szczesny. Amongst the Top 5 EPL keepers. Enough said.

Top 5?

I would go as far as top 3!

Defence:

Arsenal defence wasn't not too bad' date=' considering they played 4 CBs with no proper flank support in the attack. But as I always believed, we can use one more solid premier league defender.

-> Cahill, Samba, Vertonghen (Budget 15m)[/quote']

The thing with that is you have named three CB's. I would try and prize Baines off Everton, maybe giving them the likes of Miquel and Frimpong or something on Loan for experience.

Midfield:

The midfield is average. Ramsey is an average player' date=' but he has time in his side. When Wilshere comes back, the midfield will be fine, however Arteta is getting a bit old so a signing can help. Not that urgent though. We have talented players coming up like Frimpong and Coquelin. But they seriously need more games to shine.

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)[/quote']

Arteta Old? 29 is far from Old. Coquelin and Frimpong would be starters outside the top 7 IMO. Frimpong needs a loan spell, Coquelin had one last season with Lorient, and did well.

Wings:

Gervinho and Walcott. Walcott has been inconsistent' date=' some times he's very good, but yesterday he is invisible. Gervinho although has more of the balls, his dribbling is going nowhere, and the passes and shots are mostly wrong decisions.[/quote']

Gervinho needs time to adapt, look at Dzeko for example. Time to give Arshavin back to Zenit, I will miss him, but he hasn't done anything that comes to mind, I would rather play Ryo than Arshavin atm.

Where is AOC? I had rather gamble on him when things don't go well. A 15M signing nowhere to be seen' date=' come on! Arshavin is a goner, he doesn't even have that 5mins of magic in him anymore too. Arsenal being linked to many attacking midfield talents and wingers, if only we can get one of them, we'll be up there. We clearly lack attacking talent and options.

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)[/quote']

Eriksen is a good shout, but it would take a lot to get him away from Ajax. Oxlade's chance hopefully will come soon, with the squad needing to be rotated.

Strikers:

RVP' date=' RVP, RVP. We only have 1 proper striker.

Chamakh don't seem to fit EPL, perhaps going back to Ligue 1 will be best for him. Park can be a back up, but that means we're still short of at least 1 good striker.

Many rumours we've secured Podolski signature. I'm not sure about that. But that is a quality we need. Henry has also being linked with a January loan return to Arsenal.

-> Podolski, Kalou, Thierry Henry, Jovetic (Budget 10-20m)[/quote']

Chamakh has been a four letter word I cannot say.

Park, well we haven't see enough of him, maybe over next few months because of Cup of Nations. Henry for a month or two would be a fairytale!

Very good in-depth review.

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It was a brave effort by Arsenal' date=' they don't look like an away side. But despite how hard some players work and try to impress, it just shows the lack of quality against a star-sided team like Man City, especially on the attack.

[b']Goalkeeping:[/b]

Szczesny. Amongst the Top 5 EPL keepers. Enough said.

Defence:

Arsenal defence wasn't not too bad, considering they played 4 CBs with no proper flank support in the attack. But as I always believed, we can use one more solid premier league defender.

-> Cahill, Samba, Vertonghen (Budget 15m)

Midfield:

The midfield is average. Ramsey is an average player, but he has time in his side. When Wilshere comes back, the midfield will be fine, however Arteta is getting a bit old so a signing can help. Not that urgent though. We have talented players coming up like Frimpong and Coquelin. But they seriously need more games to shine.

-> Parejo, Montolivo, Gourcuff, M'vila (Budget 10-25m)

Wings:

Gervinho and Walcott. Walcott has been inconsistent, some times he's very good, but yesterday he is invisible. Gervinho although has more of the balls, his dribbling is going nowhere, and the passes and shots are mostly wrong decisions.

Where is AOC? I had rather gamble on him when things don't go well. A 15M signing nowhere to be seen, come on! Arshavin is a goner, he doesn't even have that 5mins of magic in him anymore too. Arsenal being linked to many attacking midfield talents and wingers, if only we can get one of them, we'll be up there. We clearly lack attacking talent and options.

-> Gotze, Hazard, Reus, Eriksen, Granero, Taarabt, Vargas, Marko Marin, Marvin Martin (Budget 10m-50m)

Strikers:

RVP, RVP, RVP. We only have 1 proper striker.

Chamakh don't seem to fit EPL, perhaps going back to Ligue 1 will be best for him. Park can be a back up, but that means we're still short of at least 1 good striker.

Many rumours we've secured Podolski signature. I'm not sure about that. But that is a quality we need. Henry has also being linked with a January loan return to Arsenal.

-> Podolski, Kalou, Thierry Henry, Jovetic (Budget 10-20m)

We have enough transfer budget to ship in talented players we need to put ourselves in firm position to challenge with top ability at all fronts. 50M is what we've been told. Use them Wenger, at least half of it this January for a fine signing. We can't last till the end of the campaign with the current team. A good signing will also show our current players ambition.

Cahill's rubbish, no thanks. CB position doesn't need strengthening really, our options are fine there. The full back position is more of a worry. If we can get a full back who can play on both sides then that'd be great. But going forward has to be our main concern. Winger, AM and striker in January and we could end up having a good/decent season.

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