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Do you guys have money to spend in January? I know you have new owners but that doesn't necessarily mean big signings

big signings in jan= no

All intelligent coaches never sign big players in Jan also, the market is always far too inflated.

[Stuart H 19,818]

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big signings in jan= no

All intelligent coaches never sign big players in Jan also' date=' the market is always far too inflated.[/quote']

Not necessarily. Liverpool probably haven't seen many January signings as Champions League players tend to be cup tied. That's not so much a problem now. The market isn't always inflated as several players contracts run out in the summer and clubs often try to sell on for some money in the winter window.

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Not necessarily. Liverpool probably haven't seen many January signings as Champions League players tend to be cup tied. That's not so much a problem now. The market isn't always inflated as several players contracts run out in the summer and clubs often try to sell on for some money in the winter window.

The contract issues are one offs, in general coaches wait till the summer for big signings, yes there are some excptions but in general.

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Klopp would definately be an ideal manager for Liverpool. He's already managed to re-vamp the BVB succesfully and managed to do so with not so much fund in his hands. When he first came to BVB, the club had a caotic period with several managers coming in and out and not to mention that after the success of BVB in the 90's led to the board going wild and tried to establish BVB as one of the biggest teams in Europe during the early 00's, which lead to almost an economic collapse and several key-players left. So, when Klopp took over Dortmund, they were kind of in the same situation as where Liverpool are in currently - budget-players and (pre-NESV time) not so much funds ready to splash in the market.

Yet, within two years, Klopp has managed to re-vamp practically the whole squad of Dortmund and that is with very limited funds, he has managed to compose a squad of talented players, who may be lacking at routine, but with Klopp's winning-mentallity and good management, they don't show any sign of mental weakness. He has builded up a good base overall at BVB as well, as they can now plan the future with confidence and in a non-caotic way by signing long-term contracts with key-players (Klopp, Bender, Sahin and Grosskreutz have all done that this season).

Klopp has already proved that he turn around a sinking boat and he would definately be able of doing that as well at Liverpool if he were to be given the opportunity. However, as Liverpool naturally are a bigger club than Dortmund and therefore have higher ambitions that Dortmund, then I do think the NESV has to stay up for their own words - not be frightened to spend. This squad really needs some new faces, and if Klopp would get the players of his desire, then I do think it would be paying off in the long run, as I think he is the manager who could stay in the long run and giving the result to what you all really want.'

EDIT: LOL at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Konchesky

[Suso 1,272]

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EDIT: LOL at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Konchesky

lol, someone has too much time on his hands:D

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EDIT: LOL at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Konchesky

very prolific for england c

[J_B_K 1,636]

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Klopp would definately be an ideal manager for Liverpool. He's already managed to re-vamp the BVB succesfully and managed to do so with not so much fund in his hands. When he first came to BVB' date=' the club had a caotic period with several managers coming in and out and not to mention that after the success of BVB in the 90's led to the board going wild and tried to establish BVB as one of the biggest teams in Europe during the early 00's, which lead to almost an economic collapse and several key-players left. So, when Klopp took over Dortmund, they were kind of in the same situation as where Liverpool are in currently - budget-players and (pre-NESV time) not so much funds ready to splash in the market.

Yet, within two years, Klopp has managed to re-vamp practically the whole squad of Dortmund and that is with very limited funds, he has managed to compose a squad of talented players, who may be lacking at routine, but with Klopp's winning-mentallity and good management, they don't show any sign of mental weakness. He has builded up a good base overall at BVB as well, as they can now plan the future with confidence and in a non-caotic way by signing long-term contracts with key-players (Klopp, Bender, Sahin and Grosskreutz have all done that this season).

Klopp has already proved that he turn around a sinking boat and he would definately be able of doing that as well at Liverpool if he were to be given the opportunity. However, as Liverpool naturally are a bigger club than Dortmund and therefore have higher ambitions that Dortmund, then I do think the NESV has to stay up for their own words - not be frightened to spend. This squad really needs some new faces, and if Klopp would get the players of his desire, then I do think it would be paying off in the long run, as I think he is the manager who could stay in the long run and giving the result to what you all really want.[/quote']

Is Klopp the manager who said

There is alot of good young German players that would be good enough to play for Real Madrid but not Barcelona

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EDIT: LOL at this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Konchesky

First of all, Real Madrid, then Barcelona, then southport (with the small s )

He was quite a prolific goal-scorer for Barca wasn't he?

LOL! He also plays for Everton and was born in barking mad.

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Is Klopp the manager who said

It might have been. I haven't heard that previously' date=' to be honest. I forgot to mention a point regarding the situation of Klopp - he, just recently, signed a contract extension with Dortmund that'll see him managing them till at least 2014. Of course this doesn't mean he is unavailble, but it will a lot harder (not to mention expensiver) to get his contract.

First of all, Real Madrid, then Barcelona, then southport (with the small s )

He was quite a prolific goal-scorer for Barca wasn't he?

LOL! He also plays for Everton and was born in barking mad.

He grow up such a big ego at Barca after winning the Spanish Golden Boot (from the LB position! ) that Guardiola throwed him out of the club. I've heard he's a player who doesn't care about the money and he plays for the team that has a challenge. In this case, southport offered him a contract with the aim of mouting a serious challenge for promtion. Every team needs a natural goal-poacher.

[DJ Specs 11]

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Klopp could be a good candidate but they will need to pay him more money. I still recommend Deschamps or maybe Owen Coyle for the job.

BTW I cannot see big signings in January for most clubs (except the mega-rich Man City) but more transfers will be made in the summer, not winter.

[Gizb 4,191]

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According to IFFHS, Hodgson was the 9th best manager of last year.. probably due to his work on Fulham.. no Benitez on the list.

[burs 4,131]

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quique flores is above ancelotti on that list ffs!

[hog0101 4,359]

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Think Adebayor would be a cracking signing,if he can get his head right.

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[Gizb 4,191]

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quique flores is above ancelotti on that list ffs!

Quique won Europa League and European Super Cup..

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Roy Hodgson argues for change of boss at Liverpool FC

Jan 3 2011 By Ben Thornley

OF all the voices who have argued for a change of management at Anfield this season one man has consistently made the most compelling case – Roy Hodgson.

There has never have been a Liverpool boss as universally disliked by supporters as the Londoner.

But it’s not just the regressive tactics, awful signings (Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky) and pitiful away form (six defeats in nine games with a goal difference of -10) that has turned the Kop against him.

Liverpool supporters have become accustomed to their managers being equally skilled as orators, a trend begun by the great Bill Shankly. Even the quieter men among the club’s roll call of bosses like Bob Paisley could be relied upon for cutting sound bites.

Not Hodgson. Barely a press conference goes by without the former UAE coach embarrassing himself and the club, alienating a player or enraging fans.

Here is a collection of the worst efforts of his first – and hopefully only – six months in charge:

I preferred to put my weight behind David Ngog and Ryan Babel, who's never really been given a proper chance at centre-forward at the club. I'm hoping that between now and Christmas we'll have ample quality to see us through that period.

On not buying another striker

A club like Liverpool shouldn't have to rely on non-specialists like Dirk Kuyt or Ryan Babel ‘doing a job’ up front when they are primarily wide players.

Hodgson changes his mind a month later.

They'll be a formidable challenge – there's no question about that.

On Carling Cup opponents, struggling League Two side Northampton

I thought we did quite well when (Northampton) they took the lead in the extra time and we threw caution to the wind it gave us the equaliser.

Hodgson uses the words ‘threw caution to the wind’ about playing a League Two side. At Anfield.

That was as good as we have played all season..... To get a result here – against Everton – would have been Utopia.

After the wretched loss to Everton

I know Sir Alex (Ferguson) is not really a Liverpool man so I’m a bit concerned about my excellent relationship with him.

I sincerely hope he forgives me for moving north and hopefully we can have a glass of wine together, maybe in secret.

Hodgson endears himself to Liverpool fans everywhere

I prefer to talk about the game and talk about issues that interest me. Mr Ferguson is entitled to any opinion he wants to have but I'm not going to come here and say I agree or disagree.

Hodgson refuses to defend Fernando Torres against accusations of cheating

I understand (Frank) Rijkaard has just been sacked from Galatasaray – he must be a great manager to have been sacked by Galatasaray.

'Nice guy' Roy on the Champions League and La Liga winning manager

You would have to ask (Glen Johnson) 'do you think you're playing at top form and are you playing like the best right-back in the country for your club?' If he says yes, obviously we will have to agree to differ and if he says no, then you'd have to ask the question 'why not?

Showing his man-management skills

The protest does not help but it is something I have had to live with since I came to the club.

Criticising the fans’ protest against the club’s former owners

I was disappointed – and I've told him this – that he – Dalglish – applied for the job in the summer because I don't think that was ever really going to happen for him.

Putting Liverpool legend Dalglish in his place, a man who has won more trophies than Hodgson has Premier League away games in his entire time in England

I've been involved in some big derbies in my career and you know how much they mean to the fans.... I didn't like losing in those games, which I did quite often. I did poorly so it would be nice to change that.

Hodgson shows he’s the man for the big occasion before losing 3-2 to Manchester United.

He’s a quality player and we will be working hard on our tactics to make sure he doesn’t dominate the game.

No, not Lionel Messi, rather Fulham’s Danny Murphy, who was sent packing by Liverpool six years ago.

I think it would be a sad day for football and for Liverpool if someone who had been brought in with the pomp and circumstance, and the money it took them to release me from my previous contract, and being feted as one of England's best managers – if after eight games people are deciding this guy has got to go

Showing his modest side.

Are you from Denmark? (No, Norway replied the journalist) Ah, two countries I never want to work in again.

Insulting a Norweigian journalist and a large part of Liverpool’s fan base.

We have got a lot more expensive failures on our list than good players that we have brought in for next to nothing.

Having a dig at Champions League winning former Reds boss Rafa Benitez and his transfer record

What do you mean do my methods translate? They have translated from Halmstad to Malmo to Orebo to Neuchatel Xamax to the Swiss national team. So I find the question insulting. To suggest that, because I have moved from one club to another, that the methods which have stood me in good stead for 35 years and made me one of the most respected coaches in Europe don’t suddenly work, is very hard to believe.

Reeling off some of the massive clubs he’s managed. Not so much a who’s who of European football as a who are they?

Today was a famous victory

No, not Liverpool’s win in Istanbul but a 1-0 triumph over Bolton at the Reebok.

There aren't many quality left-backs around in the world, never mind in England – so to find an English one ( Paul Konchesky) who can go straight into the team without any adjustment problems is a big advantage.

Hodgson, who sold Roberto Carlos to Real Madrid while manager of Inter Milan, knows a good left back when he sees one.

Christian (Poulsen) is an all-round player. He is capable of scoring goals, a good passer of the ball and a good defender.

After paying £4.5m on the 30-year-old plodder.

He's not that bad on the ball.

After seeing him play.

It is very early for me to make very strong judgements about where his best position is.

Hodgson shows the depth of his research on £11.5m signing Raul Meireles, who has played his entire career in central midfield. Until he came to Anfield.

I don't understand questions about Liverpool and Fulham players being different types

Who said Hodgson doesn’t grasp how big a club Liverpool is?

I've had several bad experiences. Even at Halmstad in the 70s, in the year we won our second championship, it took until the second half of the season to win our first game away and that broke a record going back two seasons. We went over two seasons without winning an away game.

On his wretched away form throughout his career.

Fans make their frustrations felt every time we lose, but unfortunately they may have to do that a few more times, because I can't see us going through a season winning every game.

Roy promises the good times are going to roll again after the 2-0 defeat to Stoke

I don't know where the stories came from that Gerrard would be fit for Newcastle.

From your Head of Sports Medicine Dr Peter Brukner, Roy.

It's not as if he'll be playing with a bunch of also-rans. I'm not asking him to play in the reserves.

Asking Torres to play against Utrecht while also motivating his reserves

I thought it would be a nice game for him (Torres) and a chance for him to get his confidence back. But I also had a talk to our fitness people and they made me see sense that it wasn't the wisest thing to do.

Revealing who picks the team.

I think we will cross that bridge when we come to it... I am not naive to believe there won’t be any danger and we will never lose a player like Torres, I understand these things can happen

Issuing a stern hands-off Torres warning to pal Ferguson. Well, kind of.

When it was mooted the club wanted me for the job I made it clear to Kenny I wanted him on board and it wouldn’t be like it was with Benitez where he’d be here in name only. It wouldn’t be the case that Kenny would be never be allowed to step foot into Melwood.

Having another dig at the Spaniard, a claim which was exposed as a lie by the Champions League winning manager

He's not so much a player I can really take responsibility for. I'd have to share the responsibility for Joe, less so than for people like [Christian] Poulsen, [Raul] Meireles and [Paul] Konchesky, who are players I was quite happy to bring to the club.

Washing his hands of Joe Cole a week before the former Chelsea midfielder earns Liverpool a 2-1 victory over Bolton

Ever since I came here, the famous Anfield support hasn't really been there.There was the problem with the owners and Kenny being so popular and the job going to me, so I have had to live with that. I have to hope the fans will become supporters because we need support. We are not deliberately losing games.

Roy puts the final nail in his coffin

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[DJ Specs 11]

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Nice read. Hodgson off you go!

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Think Adebayor would be a cracking signing' date='if he can get his head right.

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Was going to say this^ before the defeat to Wolves, but then i didnt bother after the defeat. Great player i think Adebayor, with Citeh also signing Dzeko, certain that Manu will leave, TBH i wouldnt even mind if we got Santa...

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Think Adebayor would be a cracking signing' date='if he can get his head right. Views?[/quote']

I wouldn't want that POS within 30 miles of this club. I don't care how many goals he scored. We already have enough dysfunction in the locker room as it is.

My very near-term January wish list is (in order):

1. a real back-up GK (Brad Jones was 10X a worse signing than even Poulson.... seriously...can you just imagine if Reina was injured!)
   
   
2. a mid20s or younger CB who can walk directly into the Starting XI
   
   
3. a Winger with the actual attributes of a winger
   
   
4. as many Academy players as we can get
   
   

Oh....and did I mention a new manager...?

To that point... I think Henry/NESV will have to come out very very soon (this week or next) to either

(1)

throw their support behind Hodgson for the rest of the season or

(2)

they will have to name a new manager. If I was a Liverpool January transfer target I wouldn't want to go there if I didn't know what type of system I was going into.

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[DJ Specs 11]

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^ completely agree the above post

[Nikidinho 4,536]

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I think you should buy Adebayor/Santa Cruz and revert back to a 4-4-2.

We all know Hodgson loves the 4-4-2 so he could use it here too.

I don't think you need to splurge too much on another CB right now. Hodgson may be able to convince someone like Hangeland to come.

Buy someone like Koval as your backup keeper, and nurture him to take over if/when Reina is no more.

Maybe Ade has come to his senses now that he's seen the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

So basically you'll be playing with Ade/Santa as the target man, holding up the play for Torres or for Gerrard to come up.

[Stuart H 19,818]

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Torres never plays well with a partner IMO. For Spain Villa takes all the plaudits and whilst Torres poaches the odd goal he's recently been very out of sorts on the international scene. For Liverpool under Rafa he was almost always deployed on his own (with Gerrard supporting) and he was in the form of his life.

[Nikidinho 4,536]

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Torres never plays well with a partner IMO. For Spain Villa takes all the plaudits and whilst Torres poaches the odd goal he's recently been very out of sorts on the international scene. For Liverpool under Rafa he was almost always deployed on his own (with Gerrard supporting) and he was in the form of his life.

And that's what I'm saying. Santa Cruz/Adebayor will be supporting Torres.

They're not there to score goals. They're there to get the ball to Torres.

[Skarmory 6,000]

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It doesn't matter.

There's no way City will sell/loan to us.

[DJ Specs 11]

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Ade would be a good support to Torres.. but I don't think Santa Cruz will...

[Smartdoc 5,262]

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All irrelevant as I can't see Adebayor taking over a 50% wage cut to go anywhere. Unless he gets an offer from the continent from one of the top two or three clubs in Spain or Italy, I'm sure he'll be quite content to sit on the bench or in the reserves earning the wage he is getting. In a funny way, apart from the shenanigans on the training ground, his reputation is not being tarnished by sitting on the bench behind Tevez (and possibly Dzeko). He remains a desired player even though he's not playing and is getting paid fortunes to do very little. Many people's idea of an ideal job I reckon