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Tom Hicks has allegedly scuppered at least two 'perfect fit' offers for Liverpool, because of his unreasonable asking price.

No ones going to pay the 800mill hes looking for. it could be years until they leave the club:(

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If they want to sell our football club for £800M, they need to invest money into the club to make it worth 800M. I think if all the fans continue to protest, one day they'll see sense and hopefully walk out. Any reports on how my the bids are believed to of been?

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Well didn't take such a poor manager long to get a job :eek: anybody would think other clubs actually did want him ;)

Having said that its only the Italian and European champions :P if there are sooooooo many better options for LFC than Rafa I wonder why Inter never went after them.

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Well didn't take such a poor manager long to get a job :eek: anybody would think other clubs actually did want him ;)

Having said that its only the Italian and European champions :P if there are sooooooo many better options for LFC than Rafa I wonder why Inter never went after them.

I wonder if Inter would of come after him if he was at Liverpool still? if they we're interested in him why didn't we keep him and wait for Inter to make a move? this way wouldn't we receive a compensation fee rather than having to buy Rafa out of the club? The departure of Rafa has left the club manager-less and 3M short of what we had a week ago - so in other words, the clubs worse off than when when we had Rafa

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Whats this about Gerrard? Saw on SSN during a break that he says "Let me go to Madrid"

but they never mentioned it for the next hour and I couldn't hang about any longer.

My heart says anyone who wants to leave should be sold; but in this climate' date=' my head says a handful of big names could be off if we take that attitude :(

With Gerrard {and it is very difficult to say this} but we should probably consider cashing in on him. At 30 his form is only going one way and if the price is right it might be worth selling. Especially if he's the one brokering a move.

If they want to sell our football club for £800M, they need to invest money into the club to make it worth 800M. I think if all the fans continue to protest, one day they'll see sense and hopefully walk out. Any reports on how my the bids are believed to of been?

has there ever beena successful boycott of a football game? Maybe its time!

Well didn't take such a poor manager long to get a job anybody would think other clubs actually did want him

Having said that its only the Italian and European champions if there are sooooooo many better options for LFC than Rafa I wonder why Inter never went after them.

I think I've said before its because we're emotionally involved, our opinions are more passionate whether we're pro or anti a particular manager. The guys that run the clubs in other countries aren't getting caught up in the media stuff, chat room and forum discussion nore the radio trant lines, so they're just looking at Rafa's stats like his "win" percentage, which is around 55%.

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Well didn't take such a poor manager long to get a job :eek: anybody would think other clubs actually did want him ;)

Having said that its only the Italian and European champions :P if there are sooooooo many better options for LFC than Rafa I wonder why Inter never went after them.

Couldn't be happier for him. The pounding Rafa got from the press in this country was absolutely atrocious and unwarranted. Sky media and other press colleagues have done a great job into duping most of the viewing public in this country into believing he was a poor manager and he was victimised more than any manager I have ever seen in my lifetime (although some of it was his fault due to his poor media management at times). It's now clear he did lose sections of the dressing room in the latter half of the last season of his tenure, but with all that's gone on it's not altogether surprising. I wish him all the best :)

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I wonder if Inter would of come after him if he was at Liverpool still? if they we're interested in him why didn't we keep him and wait for Inter to make a move? this way wouldn't we receive a compensation fee rather than having to buy Rafa out of the club? The departure of Rafa has left the club manager-less and 3M short of what we had a week ago - so in other words' date=' the clubs worse off than when when we had Rafa[/quote']

Who knows if they would or wouldn't have. What we do know is that having paid him compensation and the length of time it took for him to get a new job, it seems like that was another bad decision for the good of the club.

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Couldn't be happier for him. The pounding Rafa got from the press in this country was absolutely atrocious and unwarranted. Sky media and other press colleagues have done a great job into duping most of the viewing public in this country into believing he was a poor manager and he was victimised more than any manager I have ever seen in my lifetime (although some of it was his fault due to his poor media management at times). It's now clear he did lose sections of the dressing room in the latter half of the last season of his tenure' date=' but with all that's gone on it's not altogether surprising. I wish him all the best :)[/quote']

This is a good article by Paul Tomkins about the media:

http://tomkinstimes.com/2010/03/the-media-liverpool-fc-you-2/

It essentially suggests there's not enough of a balanced approach with reference to facts, rather opinions loosely banded about which catch on as being true.

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Who knows if they would or wouldn't have. What we do know is that having paid him compensation and the length of time it took for him to get a new job' date=' it seems like that was another bad decision for the good of the club.[/quote']

But, apparently Rafa was Inter's 4th choice! Are they just taking him cause they can pick him up without using the believed 15M they we're given in compensation by Real Madrid which they would have had to give for another manager if he was at another club?

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But' date=' apparently Rafa was Inter's 4th choice! Are they just taking him cause they can pick him up without using the believed 15M they we're given in compensation by Real Madrid which they would have had to give for another manager if he was at another club?[/quote']

...and maybe he was 4th choice because of how much they'd have to pay LFC, but shot up the list once LFC had paid him to go?

Hey who knows, what's happened has happened. Lets just worry about making sure we get moving back in the right direction in all facets of the club!

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...and maybe he was 4th choice because of how much they'd have to pay LFC' date=' but shot up the list once LFC had paid him to go?

Hey who knows, what's happened has happened. Lets just worry about making sure we get moving back in the right direction in all facets of the club![/quote']

Well apparently we're getting Hodgson. But it's just a rumor at the moment that someone's passed onto me, so I'm not to sure, ill give it till tomorrow and if it hasn't been confirmed its obviously 'just a rumor'

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Joe Cole released by Chelsea today.

Arsenal and Spurs interested in him before but anyone think Liverpool could try and swoop for him as he is free and we can't really afford players who cost more than that.

He'd be handy as we look set to be losing Benayoun and Babel too

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Roy Hodgson- The right man for the job.

After running his critical eye over the main runners for the vacant Liverpool job, Rob McDonald takes a closer look at why Roy Hodgson is, in his opinion, the right man.

This isn’t going to garner me any popularity, and a lot of people will probably be angry after having read this but Roy Hodgson, should he come in, is about the right level for Liverpool Football Club. Only in the next couple of seasons will fans realise how far Rafael Benitez stretched us beyond our means.

When Gerard Houllier succeeded Roy Evans in 1998 we found a coach away from the boot room and it brought a fresh perspective to the club and was the first step to our being continentalised (forgive my invention of a word) and the first time the modern evolutions of the game were being adapted to by the club and it showed. Only then did we begin to look like a team who could compete at any level in any competition (beyond the odd domestic cup run in the 1990′s) with Houllier bringing in players from all over Europe and adapting our game tactically to succeed in the way the game was developing.

We all know how the Houllier reign ended, with him being paranoid about the press and the fans and effectively sealing his own demise before then in the Summer of 2002 with the ineffective signings he made. But we’d made the first steps into the new generation of football and, for all his negatives, David Moores really showed a great fortitude in securing Rafael Benitez as manager in 2004, knowing he was the best candidate to take us forward, even with the limited resources he could offer. And now in 2010 with Benitez gone we are left with the vacuum left behind.

Hodgson is a very astute manager, and he has coached in many different leagues so will provide a good experienced backbone to a club that desperately needs steadying on the field. This is important as Benitez fought his hardest to get LFC running his way, which I happen to think was the right way for the club, but the constant fighting behind the scenes and the lack of investment that caused such ire amongst the squad and Benitez himself tarnished what was possible. That’s not to say I expect Hodgson to be financed to the hilt, or even at all, but he is less likely to fight for the money. Although this is a negative in many respects, it is a positive in terms of the current economic climate of the club and the state of the club behind the scenes also.

As the squad is picked apart by Europe’s elite over the Summer we will see that extent of the slide we’ll now go on. Reliable sources all over the city are saying that Torres, Mascherano, Kuyt, Gerrard and Benayoun could all be out of the door by the end of the summer and with RBS reportedly getting antsy about their loans their is a strong chance that this money won’t be recouped by the club, but instead by our creditors. The squad assembled by Benitez in his tenure at the club is un-precedented, considering the lack of financial clout – apart from the first summer of the owners – the club has. Players of this pedigree were attracted to a club that was proving itself successful primarily down to the astuteness of its manager and his resilience in getting the money necessary to secure the players needed to take the club forward, in the first instance from the bumbling Rick Parry and secondly to get money from Gillett and Hicks who, well we all know about.

Many fans are calling for a return to the boot-room in Dalglish being re-instated, but it was exactly this logic of trying to stick to the old methods that lead us to such mediocrity in the 1990′s. The game has changed irrevocably from the last time we won the title under Kenny Dalglish in 1990 with a squad primarily built of British players. And although, my heart says that if Dalglish came in, he could do it again, my mind knows this is probably folly and is one of the key problems in the culture around the club: the expectation of success as well as a constant yearning for the old days, even now on the back of one of the clubs most successful periods in the last 20 years.

Sadly, I believe facing up the reality that we’ve been punching above our rightful weight for the last 5-6 years under Benitez is the only way we’re going to understand how we’re going to end up with a manager of the calibre, with no disrespect to him, of Roy Hodgson and the fact that we’re actually considering Dalglish as a solution really shows what a quagmire we are in. Were we the club we believe us to be, we’d be able to attract any number of the European elite, but the sad fact is, we can’t.

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/06/10/ex-liverpool-fc-manager-rafa-benitez-donates-96-000-to-hillsborough-family-support-group-100252-26629531/

well in rafa' date=' such a shame the 4 parasites didnt go before you[/quote']

Magnificent gesture and a mark of the man

I have said for a while i beleive the time was right for him to go, I have always liked Rafa always will as a man and I know he feels Liverpool in his heart but sometimes a new voice/ideas/methods are needed.

I thank Rafa for the memories and wish him all the best at Inter a gesture like this is so rare but a completely admirable and selfless act which will help the families who lost loved ones continue there fight fjustice.

You'll Never Walk Alone

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Magnificent gesture and a mark of the man

I have said for a while i beleive the time was right for him to go' date=' I have always liked Rafa always will as a man and I know he feels Liverpool in his heart but sometimes a new voice/ideas/methods are needed.

I thank Rafa for the memories and wish him all the best at Inter a gesture like this is so rare but a completely admirable and selfless act which will help the families who lost loved ones continue there fight fjustice.

You'll Never Walk Alone[/quote']

totally agree with whatever ray said, of mourinhos the special one, then so is rafa, both have similar coaching styles and im suprised he didnt take a break, although i dont doubt him bein succesful at inter

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£96,000? I like Rafa and I always supported him. But considering he just recieved £6million and it going straight into another extremely high paying job he might have made a bigger gesture.

I'm not critisizing him for taking the £6million from the club, as Gilette probably would have only used it for a new ivory back scratcher or something, but he could have gave a little more to the HJC.

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£96' date='000? I like Rafa and I always supported him. But considering he just recieved £6million and it going straight into another extremely high paying job he might have made a bigger gesture.

I'm not critisizing him for taking the £6million from the club, as Gilette probably would have only used it for a new ivory back scratcher or something, [b']but he could have gave a little more to the HJC[/b].

listen m8, he didnt even have to give any, at least he made a contribution an thats al that matters, even if it was £960, it is still a contribtion, and also he deserved every penny he got frm the club

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Liverpool legend Ian St John believes that Liverpool should get a British manager. Other then that, I'll be watching the England - USA match. I'm sure all Premiership spectators will be having a look at how the team play.

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£96' date='000? I like Rafa and I always supported him. But considering he just recieved £6million and it going straight into another extremely high paying job he might have made a bigger gesture.

I'm not critisizing him for taking the £6million from the club, as Gilette probably would have only used it for a new ivory back scratcher or something, but he could have gave a little more to the HJC.[/quote']

and how much have you given to charity recently?

and he's given a hell of a lot to local charities since in his time and his wife did a lot of work with local charities, probably far more than you've ever done so i'd suggest dismounting from your high horse fella ;)

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