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Suarez is Liverpools best player by a long stretch' date=' it would be suicidal to sell him, yes its a different matter if he wants to leave himself, but pushing your best player out the door is insane, he may not be the most consistent finisher in the world, but he has that World class ability to create something out of nothing, which only few players have. I'm sure the club will be blessed with a goalscorer soon.[/quote']

That says more about the poor state of Liverpools team as a whole rather than Suarez's ability tbh:o

You should look to sell him and reinvest the money in multiple areas of the squad to improve the team as a whole.

Fact of the matter being that Suarez would not be a starter for Utd, City, Barca, Real etc so it is unlikely that anyone would pay more than £25m for him.

Plus it would probably go some way to restoring your destroyed reputation by parting ways with the 'man'.

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That says more about the poor state of Liverpools team as a whole rather than Suarez's ability tbh:o

You should look to sell him and reinvest the money in multiple areas of the squad to improve the team as a whole.

Fact of the matter being that Suarez would not be a starter for Utd' date=' City, Barca, Real etc so it is unlikely that anyone would pay more than £25m for him.

Plus it would probably go some way to restoring your destroyed reputation by parting ways with the 'man'.[/quote']

You named 4 clubs, go on name some more, i think you will find it hard. Suarez if he left would go for £30m+

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That says more about the poor state of Liverpools team as a whole rather than Suarez's ability tbh:o

You should look to sell him and reinvest the money in multiple areas of the squad to improve the team as a whole.

Fact of the matter being that Suarez would not be a starter for Utd' date=' City, Barca, Real etc so it is unlikely that anyone would pay more than £25m for him.

Plus it would probably go some way to restoring your destroyed reputation by parting ways with the 'man'.[/quote']

Other than the reason in the last paragraph that post makes no sense and you go against your own points a few times.

First you say how poor our side is because Suarez is by far our most creative and best player (which if slightly true)

But then, to compare Suarez you start naming 4 of the current top sides in the world to date, why are you comparing us to teams WAY above our level when in your own words you already said we are poor?

ok... then you say about selling Suarez and spending all the money to improve various areas of the team, but then you state we would not even get 25mil for him, so again.....

anyways... :P

We have had this debate about Suarez loads of times and each time we come to the same agreement, so why we need to keep going over the same old ..... is beyond me lol, all of us have been over the same points like 10 times now, surely you don't want to keep doing so when we all know your views and you know ours ;)

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Other than the reason in the last paragraph that post makes no sense and you go against your own points a few times.

First you say how poor our side is because Suarez is by far our most creative and best player (which if slightly true)

But then' date=' to compare Suarez you start naming 4 of the current top sides in the world to date, why are you comparing us to teams WAY above our level when in your own words you already said we are poor?

ok... then you say about selling Suarez and spending all the money to improve various areas of the team, but then you state we would not even get 25mil for him, so again.....

anyways... :P

We have had this debate about Suarez loads of times and each time we come to the same agreement, so why we need to keep going over the same old ..... is beyond me lol, all of us have been over the same points like 10 times now, surely you don't want to keep doing so when we all know your views and you know ours ;)[/quote']

Suarez is a classy player, I don't think anyone can argue with that. His antics are questionable and his finishing could be improved, but overall a joy to watch.

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You named 4 clubs' date=' go on name some more, i think you will find it hard. Suarez if he left would go for £30m+[/quote']

I think the fact this hasn't been answered shows a lot.

Also hearing people give Sterling a bit of criticism its important to remember he is 17, most players only fully develop at 22/23!

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On motd last night lineker was commenting on sterling saying ''we dont produce many players who like to dribble''...my reaction, ''yeah, its a shame sterling's Jamaican'' :P

Seriously though, he hopefully has a long England and Liverpool career ahead of him, you saw yesterday how his game is slowly and efficiently developing, long long time since i've been this excited about a youngster coming through the club.

You won't get relegated and we won't win the title but there's absolutely no way in hell you'll finish anywhere near us.

And what would you class as 'anywhere near us'??

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You won't get relegated and we won't win the title but there's absolutely no way in hell you'll finish anywhere near us.

I think he was more talking about the fact LFC and rodgers have been nothing but blasted this year by both the media and other fans saying how poor we are' date=' poor squad, worst start in 100 years etc etc

Arsenal was being talked up as title challengers and have spent well, good team etc etc.

Yet we are only 3 points behind, granted that gap is going to grow imo but after our shocking start and the comments I said above its not too bad to be fair.

I'd expect you to finish around the 50 point IF Suarez stays fit. Maybe 55 if you sign well in January. Whereas i'd expect ourselves to be around the 70 point mark.

I think that is a fair statement.

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I think he was more talking about the fact LFC and rodgers have been nothing but blasted this year by both the media and other fans saying how poor we are' date=' poor squad, worst start in 100 years etc etc

Arsenal was being talked up as title challengers and have spent well, good team etc etc.

Yet we are only 3 points behind, granted that gap is going to grow imo but after our shocking start and the comments I said above its not too bad to be fair.

I think that is a fair statement.[/quote']

This................

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I think he was more talking about the fact LFC and rodgers have been nothing but blasted this year by both the media and other fans saying how poor we are' date=' poor squad, worst start in 100 years etc etc

Arsenal was being talked up as title challengers and have spent well, good team etc etc.

Yet we are only 3 points behind, granted that gap is going to grow imo but after our shocking start and the comments I said above its not too bad to be fair.

I think that is a fair statement.[/quote']

In fairness, you do have a poor squad. You don't want to be pinning your hopes on 17/18/19 year olds come March. That won't be beneficial to the club or the players.

As for ourselves, we could have been title challengers, and still could be, IF certain retards in midfield disappear and Wilshere and Gnabry get into the fold as well as buying in January.

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In fairness' date=' you do have a poor squad. You don't want to be pinning your hopes on 17/18/19 year olds come March. That won't be beneficial to the club or the players.

As for ourselves, we could have been title challengers, and still could be, IF certain retards in midfield disappear and Wilshere and Gnabry get into the fold as well as buying in January.[/quote']

Yeah but again, all the above isn't the argument, we are talking about here and now and when you take into account everything I listed in my previous post, it isn't as bad as some people like to make out.

Which was the point Foster was making I think.

Especially seems we have already played Man Utd, city, Arsenal etc

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Yeah but again' date=' all the above isn't the argument, we are talking about here and now and when you take into account everything I listed in my previous post, it isn't as bad as some people like to make out.

Which was the point Foster was making I think.

Especially seems we have already played Man Utd, city, Arsenal etc[/quote']

And we've played Etihad away, yourselves away, Stoke away and Chelsea at home. So you can see why the gap's only three points.Also all the games you've mentioned there Liverpool were at home as well.

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And we've played Etihad away' date=' yourselves away, Stoke away and Chelsea at home. So you can see why the gap's only three points.Also all the games you've mentioned there Liverpool were at home as well.[/quote']

That isn't the reason the gap is only 3 points especially considering you actually beat us.

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That isn't the reason the gap is only 3 points especially considering you actually beat us.

Well, we should have beaten Stoke and should have done a hell of a lot better against Chelsea so yes, it does go some way to explaining it. But it was mainly yesterday which was the worst performance i've seen from an Arsenal team in nearly 3.....weeks. I really hate it when we play like that.

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Well' date=' we should have beaten Stoke and should have done a hell of a lot better against Chelsea so yes, it does go some way to explaining it. But it was mainly yesterday which was the worst performance i've seen from an Arsenal team in nearly 3.....weeks. I really hate it when we play like that.[/quote']

Yeah agreed mate but we can also do that, we have destroyed teams at home and come away with nothing yet again just like we did last season.

And take into account we got robbed by some stupid decisions against Utd.

But all that aside, after 8 games we are only 3 points behind one of the teams that will make the CL, it isn't bad going when we only have 1 striker and a bunch of youngsters playing with a new manager etc etc.

The gap will grow, I have no doubts about that and I also think Everton will finish above us this season BUT right at this moment in time its not the end of the world like some fans and especially the media have been spouting on about which is all I really mean and that post we have been talking about meant.

I bet you ain't looking forward to coming up against RVP this year :P

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I bet you ain't looking forward to coming up against RVP this year :P

Grown use to it. Whatever happens when we play him, it can't be anymore sickening then the Adebayor celebration. All i can hope is one of our tougher men, Podolski Vermaelen Koscielny, leaves their mark on him. He'll score against us, no doubt about it.

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The gap will grow' date=' I have no doubts about that and I also think Everton will finish above us this season BUT right at this moment in time its not the end of the world like some fans and especially the media have been spouting on about which is all I really mean and that post we have been talking about meant.

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I'm actually quite positive about the season, you see week in week out the progress made on the pitch, the performances will only get better, the nucleus is there in place to challenge for to 4 imo - if by christmas the gap isn't stretched by more than 6 points, still some real quality players at the club in Reina (i know he hasnt been performing well but i hope he finds his form) Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Gerrard, Sahin, Suarez, Lucas will be back aswell, Sterling will burn out by february the latest with the amount of work he puts in but until then hes going to be a real asset attacking wise, personally feel we'll just miss out on top 4 by about 4 points, the leagues even more competitive now, lets just wait and see.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3378/international-friendlies/2012/10/21/3466878/liverpool-starlet-sterling-set-for-england-debut

Dont know what to make of that really, hasn't really made an impression in the U21's but theres no harm in him being in the squad i suppose.

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I'm actually quite positive about the season' date=' you see week in week out the progress made on the pitch, the performances will only get better, the nucleus is there in place to challenge for to 4 imo - if by christmas the gap isn't stretched by more than 6 points, still some real quality players at the club in Reina (i know he hasnt been performing well but i hope he finds his form) Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Gerrard, Sahin, Suarez, Lucas will be back aswell, Sterling will burn out by february the latest with the amount of work he puts in but until then hes going to be a real asset attacking wise, personally feel we'll just miss out on top 4 by about 4 points, the leagues even more competitive now, lets just wait and see.[/quote']

I disagree, we have put in some good performances but unless people start hitting the back of the net we wont be finishing anywere near the top 4.

This is not a small problem anymore, its been going on for nearly 2 years and it ended up actually costing Kenny his job.

I think people have forgotten we played some amazing football under Kenny as well and created far, far more chances then we do currently but none of the players (inc Suarez and Gerrard) put them in the back of the net and we all know what happened.

Already we have drew 0-0 at home to Stoke when Utd smashed 4 past them the week later, and we only just scrapped a 1-0 at home to Reading.

I do think we are improving and like I was with Kenny I'm behind Rodgers 100%

Like I said a few pages back, if it was me I would appoint Fowler as a coach for the strikers, I think it would do them a lot of good especially Suarez

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I disagree' date=' we have put in some good performances but unless people start hitting the back of the net we wont be finishing anywere near the top 4.

This is not a small problem anymore, its been going on for nearly 2 years and it ended up actually costing Kenny his job.

I think people have forgotten we played some amazing football under Kenny as well and created far, far more chances then we do currently but none of the players (inc Suarez and Gerrard) put them in the back of the net and we all know what happened.

Already we have drew 0-0 at home to Stoke when Utd smashed 4 past them the week later, and we only just scrapped a 1-0 at home to Reading.

I do think we are improving and like I was with Kenny I'm behind Rodgers 100%

Like I said a few pages back, if it was me I would appoint Fowler as a coach for the strikers, I think it would do them a lot of good especially Suarez[/quote']

Good Post.

We created a lot mopre chances under Kenny but then that wont be popular to say with most on this thread.

I believe in what Rodgers is trying to achieve but you have to be realistic there is not a hope that we will get anywhere near top four IMO, we simply aint strong enough and the same problems remain that have been evident for some time now.

I think we should set a target of 60points now we might not even make that but I think that is a fair benchmark to be aiming at especially if we can actually get anybody in that actually improves the team/squad in Jan

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I understand most of you back him 100% and that's not quite what I'm ging to ask. What are your impressions of Rodgers a few months in?

In my mind, the extra scrutiny has revealed a certain shallowness to his understanding of management. The endless cliches, the total focus on one style of play etc. I don't think he will be successful at Liverpool from what I've seen of him his season.

Just to reiterate, I would still be fully backing if I were you, but I would not be particularly optimistic.

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Can't be bothered reading back through the thread no doubt it's full of rubbish from Chelsea fans that no nothing and Arsenal fans who date their sisters.

Anybody watching Being Liverpool on C5? Rodgers comes over as a complete idiot. He can not give a team talk to save his life and his little group hugs couldn't even arouse my dad after he's popped 3 viagra.

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Can't be bothered reading back through the thread no doubt it's full of rubbish from Chelsea fans that no nothing and Arsenal fans who date their sisters.

Anybody watching Being Liverpool on C5? Rodgers comes over as a complete idiot. He can not give a team talk to save his life and his little group hugs couldn't even arouse my dad after he's popped 3 viagra.

I wouldn't say he comes across as a complete idiot, it was a bit suprising to see him having three envelopes of players who would let them down against West Brom but it all clearly works for him.

Really cheesy programme though, think it's aimed at simply gaining support in America.

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I wouldn't say he comes across as a complete idiot' date=' it was a bit suprising to see him having three envelopes of players who would let them down against West Brom but it all clearly works for him.

Really cheesy programme though, think it's aimed at simply gaining support in America.[/quote']

From the show I would summarise that his 'man management', especially with the likes of Shelvey and Sterling seems very good.

However his tactical instructions seem to be a load of nonsense tbh. Also on camera his response to the WBA defeat was embarrasing. Whilst there may have been a couple of 'soft' decisions, informing the team that they were unlucky to lose 0-3 and played well is not the type of management that is going to propel LFC imo.

If he had laid into the team for its poor finishing and 'casual' defending, then he may have had more of a response. Instead of that he informed them that the referee changed the game and they would have to get used to that happening, thus exonerating them from their mistakes which still continue to this day.

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