Official Spanish La Liga Discussion Thread

[Gizb 4,191]

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Ronaldo has a 4% Scoring Ratio on his free-kicks' date=' Only scored one this season.

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where did you find this stats?

[Frozy 16,357]

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Ahhhhhhhhhhh' date=' I only saw the last 2 goals

Still Madrids main free-kick taker has taken this long to score 1[/quote']

He scored one against Osasuna two weeks ago. I doubt these were his only freekicks this year.

[Synyster 7,705]

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He scored one against Osasuna two weeks ago. I doubt these were his only freekicks this year.

I know his not scored as many since leaving United, I think 2008 he scored 6 or 7, but his La Liga free-kicks haven't really been that good at all. I think he's had more this season than usual from the Madrid matches i've watched.

[Stuart H 19,818]

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He scored one against Osasuna two weeks ago. I doubt these were his only freekicks this year.

I know he scored his first of the season very recently; possibly Osasuna.

I think Ronaldo is better than Messi at free kicks but I don't think it's a major plus point in his game. He wastes far more than he scores and has a much worse conversion rate than several other 'specialists'. It's more a case of free kicks being a low point in Messi's game which is more a case of him and Barca not shooting from a lot of free kicks. The one he scored against Atletico that's been posted in the YouTube videos was an opportunistic strike from a free kick that looked like it'd been set up for a cross into the box. Ronaldo shoots from everywhere and the shots can go anywhere.

[Frozy 16,357]

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I know his not scored as many since leaving United' date=' I think 2008 he scored 6 or 7, but his La Liga free-kicks haven't really been that good at all. I think he's had more this season than usual from the Madrid matches i've watched.[/quote']

And of course how could i forget about that beauty against Apoel

He scores free kicks very consistently which is what I'd expect from a good free kick taker.

Could you name me any other player who is scoring this many free kicks a season?

And dont say Juninho as he's past it.

[Synyster 7,705]

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And of course how could i forget about that beauty against Apoel

He scores free kicks very consistently which is what I'd expect from a good free kick taker.

Could you name me any other player who is scoring this many free kicks a season?

And dont say Juninho as he's past it.

Woooooo

Juhninho aint past it..............

How many teams have a specific free-kick taker, usually teams have about 3 or 4 for different situations.

Plus how many shoot directly, some just dink them in the box or drill them for a touch, I think Madrid are one of the few examples of a team with one designated Free-Kick taker who shoots from every free-kick.

I mean for example Liverpool

Gerrard or Suarez get the close ones to shoot

Gerrard or Bellamy will cross them in

Agger will take far out shots

[Frozy 16,357]

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I know he scored his first of the season very recently; possibly Osasuna.

I think Ronaldo is better than Messi at free kicks but I don't think it's a major plus point in his game. He wastes far more than he scores and has a much worse conversion rate than several other 'specialists'. It's more a case of free kicks being a low point in Messi's game which is more a case of him and Barca not shooting from a lot of free kicks. The one he scored against Atletico that's been posted in the YouTube videos was an opportunistic strike from a free kick that looked like it'd been set up for a cross into the box. Ronaldo shoots from everywhere and the shots can go anywhere.

Do you realise how much power goes into those long range free kicks? Thats why only a few do it. Ronaldo/Carlos/Juninho. Most players just dont have that strenght in their legs to perform such great shots hence they never try them. If Messi tried that it would hit the wall/comfortable save for the keeper.

[Hayden19 6,995]

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And dont say Juninho as he's past it.

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[Hayden19 6,995]

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Past it?

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[Frozy 16,357]

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Not what I ment sorry. Meant Juninho has been there from before and will soon retire. I mean theres no current free kickers that can match Ronaldo.

[Stuart H 19,818]

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Do you realise how much power goes into those long range free kicks? Thats why only a few do it. Ronaldo/Carlos/Juninho. Most players just dont have that strenght in their legs to perform such great shots hence they never try them. If Messi tried that it would hit the wall/comfortable save for the keeper.

And 95% of the time Ronaldo's blaze over or hit the wall. I'd much rather keep possession and fashion a better chance in such a situation than battering a hopeful 40 yard drive in the general direction of the goal.

[Frozy 16,357]

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And 95% of the time Ronaldo's blaze over or hit the wall. I'd much rather keep possession and fashion a better chance in such a situation than battering a hopeful 40 yard drive in the general direction of the goal.

How many of those possesion free kicks results in goals though? Exactly. Whether you shoot or pass youre not guaranteed a goal. And Ronaldo shooting it results in more chance of goal IMO

[Frozy 16,357]

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Im going out for a bit lads. Will discuss this later on

[dean 881]

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How many of those possesion free kicks results in goals though? Exactly. Whether you shoot or pass youre not guaranteed a goal. And Ronaldo shooting it results in more chance of goal IMO

Ronaldo's is more hit as hard as I can and hopefully it will go in and if it does I look good.

[Didi 7,214]

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Not what I ment sorry. Meant Juninho has been there from before and will soon retire. I mean theres no current free kickers that can match Ronaldo.

The point was, Juninho is a current free kick taker.

Anyway, if Ronaldo has indeed scored, what, one or two free kicks this season, I can point you various set pieces takers who have converted more with better rate.

[Didi 7,214]

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How many of those possesion free kicks results in goals though? Exactly. Whether you shoot or pass youre not guaranteed a goal. And Ronaldo shooting it results in more chance of goal IMO

The point is, your Ronaldo free kick is wasted situation, ball given to opponent. You are not guaranteed a goal with passing the ball, but you will often get a good attack that takes more time from the opponent, denying them the chances to build attacks, tiring them, resulting in corner kicks, new better free kicks, possibly penalty kicks, and so on. I find 100 better uses for a free kick than blasting it to stands.

[Savvy 662]

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Ronaldo's is more hit as hard as I can and hopefully it will go in and if it does I look good.

No it's not

He practices a freekick technique, turning the ball and the dipping effect, it's not just smashing it, it is actually a technique that he works on

[Savvy 662]

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The point is' date=' your Ronaldo free kick is wasted situation, ball given to opponent. You are not guaranteed a goal with passing the ball, but you will often get a good attack that takes more time from the opponent, denying them the chances to build attacks, tiring them, resulting in corner kicks, new better free kicks, possibly penalty kicks, and so on. I find 100 better uses for a free kick than blasting it to stands.[/quote']

Scoring from a freekick decreases the morale of the opposition and increases the pressure, it saves a lot more time than passing the ball, it is much easier if you score from a freekick than a goal with passing the ball, you might as well not have the freekick as if you hadn't had the freekick, you would still go about your passing game, freekicks also allows the opposition to fill the back to not allow any space which is why it is easier to strike the ball because if you pass it then the opposition are sitting near the goal in tight numbers

[Frozy 16,357]

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Ronaldo's is more hit as hard as I can and hopefully it will go in and if it does I look good.

If that was the case I'm sure he would have been replaced as RM's free kick taker. He doesn't just hit it anywhere hoping for the best. He aims for certain spot where goalkeeper will often not get to due to sheer speed of the shot.

The point was' date=' Juninho is a current free kick taker.

Anyway, if Ronaldo has indeed scored, what, one or two free kicks this season, I can point you various set pieces takers who have converted more with better rate.[/quote']

I know he is and I admit Juninho is better than Ronaldo at FK's but he's been around and everyone knows him as the king. And It's not one or two its more. I don't follow his every goal though. Talent Searcher might be able to tell you more.

The point is' date=' your Ronaldo free kick is wasted situation, ball given to opponent. You are not guaranteed a goal with passing the ball, but you will often get a good attack that takes more time from the opponent, denying them the chances to build attacks, tiring them, resulting in corner kicks, new better free kicks, possibly penalty kicks, and so on. I find 100 better uses for a free kick than blasting it to stands.[/quote']

You have as much chance of scoring by letting Ronnie take his trademark as you would by passing it around and letting the defence clear the ball with a poor pass.

[A2R 2,769]

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Not what I ment sorry. Meant Juninho has been there from before and will soon retire. I mean theres no current free kickers that can match Ronaldo.

Exactly, he has retired yet though has he?? He can not only match Ronaldo, but is also a superior free-kick taker imo.

EDIT Hayden's already shown his free-kick down below from only last seasons championship.

[Dermo 4,315]

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Hernan Perez of Villarreal scores a thunderbolt in stoppage time from a corner to give his side victory over Malaga. It's one to youtube if you can. More the fact that the game was dead at 1-1, with Cazorla scoring first, and a mightily impressive (as a legend in the game as opposed to anything else) Senna scoring from a penalty kick. Senna was good tonight, and I thought this game was poor, and heading to 1-1. But football is mightier than the pen, as Shakespeare would say if he was there.

[Gizb 4,191]

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Gijon pondering to remove the wall in the freekicks against Ronaldo.. xD he, that in the last 4 games scored 3 goals from freekicks.

[cheekylad68 6,771]

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Rossi has only gone and done his cruciate AGAIN:(

Another 6 months of rehab.

Poor poor lad.

And Villarreal will be lucky to get anywhere near a 'decent' fee for a striker on the back of 2 cruciate injuries.

[Kylan N17 2,768]

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Rossi has only gone and done his cruciate AGAIN:(

Another 6 months of rehab.

Poor poor lad.

And Villarreal will be lucky to get anywhere near a 'decent' fee for a striker on the back of 2 cruciate injuries.

Yep, just read about that. Feel bad for the guy but stuff happens. Guess that also rules out any hope he had, as did perhaps Prandelli for being an inclusion into the Azzuri Euro squad, even despite not having played.

It's a massive setback, one where now I wonder if potential thought to be suitors keen on making a move for Rossi, say, Juventus, will completely shy away from him now, until he's regained a run of form again, which could take upwards of a year.

[Jack-THFC 1,573]

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I think Jose Callejon will be going to the Euros. Him' date=' Soldado, Llorente and Villa if fit. If Villa isn't fit, then Torres.[/quote']

I agree and also with a chance is Michu of Rayo Vallecano, he has been a savior for them this season and is the second highest Spanish scorer in La Liga scoring the same as Llorente and one less then Soldado. He plays in a more deeper role then all the others mentioned but I would love it if he got picked, if not then I would like to see him play for a club like Sevilla or possibly Atletico Madrid to see how he develops because he looks a good player.