timesle 8,023 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Who is the best talent between kagawa' date=' gundogan and schurrle?[/quote']Difficult one as all three are very talented - no doubt - but all are still a bit inconstant in their performances. Plus I have only seen Kagawa for ~10 matches now - so maybe it's even a bit presumptuous to call him inconsistent. He has been great in the first matches but he also has become weaker in the last few games. IMO I would rank them like that: Schürrle Kagawa Gündogan But if you could get Götze, then try and get him as he is one of the most talented German youngsters. And what about sebastian rudy' date=' what's his potential?[/quote']I do rate him quite high and he also gets more playing time in Hoffenheim than he got in Stuttgart. However he has also the same problem that he needs to become more consistent. any chance gomez can save his 93??? If he keeps on playing and scoring (like he did today or on wednesday in CL) I see no reason why he should drop. Btw: His stats this season since he was a starter for Bayern again: 5 league matches, 5 goals 2 CL matches, 4 goals d.s. sebastiano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MKP 18 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) small mistake on sven schipplocks rating FANTASTIC THREAD REALLY HELPRD ME OUT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ujfalusi3 28 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Respuesta: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) how much will gundogan rise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleg_yorkshire 338 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Ádám SZALAI 82 CF 7 starts 3 subs and 3 goals what do people think he will rise to. and dortmunds Schmelzer lb/rb 86 10 starts for dortmund Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timesle 8,023 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) how much will gundogan rise? Ádám SZALAI 82 CF 7 starts 3 subs and 3 goals what do people think he will rise to.and dortmunds Schmelzer lb/rb 86 10 starts for dortmund Though I agree that it's pretty hard to watch the first post of this thread, it's sometimes advisable and maybe even helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleg_yorkshire 338 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Though I agree that it's pretty hard to watch the first post of this thread' date=' it's sometimes advisable and maybe even helpful.[/quote']well those were done 2 months ago there's been like 6 games since then;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timesle 8,023 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) well those were done 2 months ago there's been like 6 games since then;) Fair point. But so far nothing really changed. IMO maybe like that: Schmelzer > 88/87 Szalai > 85/84 Gündogan > 85/86 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Vilos 318 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) how about Wesley Beltrame of Bremen , he now 85 , how much he will be rise ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zakkoo 2,889 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Do we not feel Piszczek has a slight chance of 87? I understand he has only played 500+ minutes, or would you say he has a good chance of 87 if he continues to start? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil (GT) 9,208 Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Do we not feel Piszczek has a slight chance of 87? I understand he has only played 500+ minutes' date=' or would you say he has a good chance of 87 if he continues to start?[/quote'] http://forum.soccermanager.com/showpost.php?p=1225535&postcount=141 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zakkoo 2,889 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) http://forum.soccermanager.com/showpost.php?p=1225535&postcount=141 Thanks :-) I would usually search, but it doesn't work on my iPhone :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil (GT) 9,208 Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Thanks :-) I would usually search' date=' but it doesn't work on my iPhone :-)[/quote']Well, I'd advise you to use a proper device then instead of this overhyped and overpriced Crapple stuff then Stuart H 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matea 61 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) You're quite moderate with most of players. Gotze will rise +9/+10, Szalai +3, Wetklo +3/+4 etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jonaldinho 2,530 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) You're quite moderate with most of players. Gotze will rise +9/+10' date=' Szalai +3, Wetklo +3/+4 etc[/quote']I cannot believe you've quoted that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil (GT) 9,208 Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) You're quite moderate with most of players. Gotze will rise +9/+10' date=' Szalai +3, Wetklo +3/+4 etc[/quote']Obviously you're the more experienced forumer and are already well-known all around the forum for you many and great prediction threads, so you're probably right. What do I say, you HAVE to be right... Besides, did you realize that these were made quite some time ago, at a time where the players you mentioned all haven't been as impressive as recently. Götze and Szalai have only been impact subs back then who slowly started to get a few starts. And Wetklo is only a replacement for the injured Müller, who should have come back from his injury (and taken Wetklo's spot again) by now, but unfortunately he takes longer to recover from his injury than it first seemed. Oh, and I prefer to stay moderate with my predictions (especially at such an early stage of the season and when there's no fixed date for the changes to happen) rather than being overly optimistic/unrealistic and than having all those 'maaahhh, you said xy would rise by 5, now he only rose by 2, mimimimi' moaners. Moral of the story: As I've stated earlier in the thread, the predictions will be amended in due time, at the latest when the German changes are announced, possibly even sooner and then a second time before the changes. Sky Blue Lee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spam 7,775 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) You're quite moderate with most of players. Gotze will rise +9/+10' date=' Szalai +3, Wetklo +3/+4 etc[/quote']Conservative predictions are preferential to overambitious ones. Evey time. And if you want to make a Bundesliga prediction thread better than Phil's, well, good luck to ya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cadnams 180 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Hi Phil, Can I ask for your opinion on Nuri Sahin of Dortmund? I'm thinking about buying him as he looks a great player, but I don't know too much about him. Many thanks. Great thread, btw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nealb 131 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Difficult one as all three are very talented - no doubt - but all are still a bit inconstant in their performances. Plus I have only seen Kagawa for ~10 matches now - so maybe it's even a bit presumptuous to call him inconsistent. He has been great in the first matches but he also has become weaker in the last few games.IMO I would rank them like that: Schürrle Kagawa Gündogan But if you could get Götze, then try and get him as he is one of the most talented German youngsters. I'm not sure mate. I think i would have to go for Kagawa at number 1, like you said... it's tight. But as he starts each week too i'd say he edges that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jay groom 37 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) You're quite moderate with most of players. Gotze will rise +9/+10' date=' Szalai +3, Wetklo +3/+4 etc[/quote']I'm sure this is one of those 'I wish I didn't say that quotes' for you eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GLORY_DAYS 2,770 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Hi Phil Great work on the thread I was just wondering what you thought of Marcel Schmelzer and what he's prospect of rising is and by how much? Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gezza 20 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) surely elia should rise... playing for NT and holland arent exactly shabby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil (GT) 9,208 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Updated predictions for all 18 teams now up on the first page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleg_yorkshire 338 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) Dont you think muller will get a 90 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Phil (GT) 9,208 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) surely elia should rise... playing for NT and holland arent exactly shabby Well' date=' he's doing anything but well for his club atm, and even if NT performances had as much impact on the ratings as you would like them to have, I don't think that being a sub for Holland would change much. Dont you think muller will get a 90 ? It's not impossible, but (similar to Elia) he's had a bad start to the season, where he looked exhausted/tired in many games and is far, far from his WC form. cleg_yorkshire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cleg_yorkshire 338 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Re: Bundesliga Ratings 2010/2011 (I) It's not impossible' date=' but (similar to Elia) he's had a bad start to the season, where he looked exhausted/tired in many games and is far, far from his WC form.[/quote']ok thanks i dont often watch german football it isnt regular in the uk repped Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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