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Not but if everything is put to the security council or the general assembly' date=' where each member votes on the issue, you can hardly say it is a US puppet organisation.

The security council has quite a lot of NATO countries, but the US can hardly control that either, especially because of veto powers. Look at Syria and that's all you need to know about how the UN is "controlled" by America.[/quote']

Don't you mean communist?

Well some countries claim to be socialist-where the ownership of the instruments of power are invested in people/institutions for the greater good.

Communism tends to associated with a political system.

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Actually if that does happen the Chinese is guaranteed to win..a couple billion arrows heading your way. Mutually assured destruction is a relic of the Cold war-and by and large have ceased to be a viable option in most situations.

The English Longbow would dominate :)

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Or perhaps because they already have them?

For world peace to happen' date=' borders needs to be taken away, everyone would need to become Atheists and weapons would be banned ... Wich'll never happen
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Wasn't Hitler an atheist ?

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Not true. He didn't want a war with England (yes' date=' i said England) as he admired their whiteness. He only fought them as they gave him no choice.[/quote']

Never really been convinced by that train of thought, he may not of wanted it in 1939, but considering our position in the world at the time he would have known that conflict would have been inevitable?

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Never really been convinced by that train of thought' date=' he may not of wanted it in 1939, but considering our position in the world at the time he would have known that conflict would have been inevitable? [/color']

I believe he wanted England as an ally more then anything. He felt that, when he saw what we were doing in India, both Nations had the same idea. It's easy to forget that this country was not entirely innocent in the war.

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I believe he wanted England as an ally more then anything. He felt that' date=' when he saw what we were doing in India, both Nations had the same idea. [b']It's easy to forget that this country was not entirely innocent in the war.[/b]

Yes like selling Poland down the line in 1945 after their pilots gave their lives during the Battle of Britain...

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I believe he wanted England as an ally more then anything. He felt that' date=' when he saw what we were doing in India, both Nations had the same idea. It's easy to forget that this country was not entirely innocent in the war.[/quote']

Quite possibly, but lets suppose if we hadn't gone to war and he achieved his ambitions in the East. I cannot imagine him entering into a power sharing arrangement with the British empire, we would have presented to much of a threat to him..

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Never really been convinced by that train of thought' date=' he may not of wanted it in 1939, but considering our position in the world at the time he would have known that conflict would have been inevitable? [/color']

far from inevitable. Halifax could have become prime minister ahead of Churchill and a peace treaty would have been signed that very week.

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Quite possibly' date=' but lets suppose if we hadn't gone to war and he achieved his ambitions in the East. I cannot imagine him entering into a power sharing arrangement with the British empire, we would have presented to much of a threat to him..[/color']

He might have done merely to appease what would have been the one last European threat to him. It's all hypothetical anyway, he had no chance of winning two wars whilst wasting so much man power on the Holocaust,

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Never Implied i was talking about Hitler in this Religion thingylingy .... more about history and crusades etc.

I don't like to blame wars on religion. I'm not a fan of religion' date=' but it is almost always a mask or less significant factor in a war. Were the crusades religious, or were they more about exerting power over foreigners and looking string in the eyes of you european subjects. Just need an excuse for war.

..did we not declare war on Germany after they invaded Poland? and are you suggesting we should have gone to war with Russia in 1945?..

We did a lot of terrible things in the war, mainly in bombings like Dresden. I do agree though that POland is not a great example.

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far from inevitable. Halifax could have become prime minister ahead of Churchill and a peace treaty would have been signed that very week.

That kind of misses the point i am making Barnaby' date=' peace in the short term perhaps?..but if he controlled Europe / Russia why would he not start on us? he would after all only be 22 miles away..[/color']

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I doubt that would have made much difference. Hitler wanted Lebensraum and he hated the communists in the East so war was inevitable.

Yes but not with us. Hitler would have lost eventually anyway, so the most meaningful consequence of Britain going to war was that it stopped Western Europe becoming communist.

Hitler was an appalling military leader and his hatred of communism lost him the war. The Soviet Union had so many troops and was so big that he could not have defeated it, nor could he have helped but try.

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I don't like to blame wars on religion. I'm not a fan of religion' date=' but it is almost always a mask or less significant factor in a war. Were the crusades religious, or were they more about exerting power over foreigners and looking string in the eyes of you european subjects. Just need an excuse for war.

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The crusades were religous in the sense that the Muslims fought for Allah and the re-conquering of Jerusalem ... while christian soldiers were lied to that partaking in the crusades and killing the infidels would cleanse them of their sins and make sure their path to God was secured!

At the end of the day it was just a suicide mission by powerhungry fools leading manipulated men into their deaths lol ( in the name of religion ofcourse )

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The crusades were religous in the sense that the Muslims fought for Allah and the re-conquering of Jerusalem ... while christian soldiers were lied to that partaking in the crusades and killing the infidels would cleanse them of their sins and make sure their path to God was secured!

At the end of the day it was just a suicide mission by powerhungry fools leading manipulated men into their deaths lol ( in the name of religion ofcourse )

I agree that the soldiers were fighting for their religion (and money), but their leaders probably weren't. Religion didn't necessarily cause it. But this is a really hard one for me to argue because it was the crusades.

But what I'm really saying is that with most wars there is something else to them. It is usually for money, wealth, power or the fear of losing money wealth or power.

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