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A few years ago I was subscribed to a fantastic thread which kept a running count of those players who were likely to hit a 90 within the year, with the reasoning and suchlike. It was remarkably nearl

Re: Risers destined for 90+ in 2011 A* thread lad, just thought I'd make a few suggestions. Bearing in mind that the 'major' leagues are set to be reviewed at least 3 times before the end of 2011 (

Re: Risers destined for 90+ in 2011 GK David DE GEA - 89 ==> 90 Currently the first-choice choice at Atletico Madrid, the 20-yo keeper is widely tipped to move to Manchester United, although

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Re: Albrighton' date=' considering there are two reviews before the seasons end I truly believe he has every chance of 88, I could quite feasibly see two consecutive +2's, maybe slightly optimistic but it's definitely attainable. I understand your conservatism though so would predict 87/88. Sorry about going off topic a bit there at the end as I doubt whether he will get 90 this year however :o[/quote']

Surely Albrighton can make 88 at the next rating. He has stood out in a struggling team that is now steadily improving. He is starting regularly and scoring.Villa could make it to 8th given favourable results in the next round of games, and the Premiership is still UEFA's highest rated league. Given he and Villa carry on like that, I don't see why he can't make 89 by the end of the season. No?

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Eden Hazard should be 90 already, he'll get it this year as long as he avoids injury, with the right move in the summer he could be 91 by the end of 2011.

Gotze will definitely be 90 during 2011

Coutinho had made a place for himself in the Inter team before his injury, if he comes back and regains his place and is as consistent as he was before, he should get a 90, possibly in 2011.

Ilicic should hit 90

DeGea is a definite as are M'Vila and Kroos.

Other options would be;

Dmitri Payet

Luis Felipe

Federico Balzaretti

Borges Willian

Assou-Ekotto

Outside bets could be Adem Ljajic, Marco Reus (if he gets a move),

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Surely Albrighton can make 88 at the next rating. He has stood out in a struggling team that is now steadily improving. He is starting regularly and scoring.Villa could make it to 8th given favourable results in the next round of games' date=' and the Premiership is still UEFA's highest rated league. Given he and Villa carry on like that, I don't see why he can't make 89 by the end of the season. No?[/quote']

+4 is a big jump, it's possible but I would personally air on the side of caution. Atm a 13th place team won't cater to such a rise. If he continues to perform at a high level and Villa keep improving a +3 could happen, I'd still be reticent regarding +4 though. I don't see 89 by the end of the season tbh, 88 is the max. for me this season. 75->89 in one season is quite a jump especially for an up to now mediocre Premiership team no matter how good Albrighton has been. I also think it would be excessive based on one decent season, I'd seriously question SM if it did happen as much as I like the guy and hope he goes on to further bigger and better things for club and country.

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Surely Albrighton can make 88 at the next rating. He has stood out in a struggling team that is now steadily improving. He is starting regularly and scoring.Villa could make it to 8th given favourable results in the next round of games' date=' and the Premiership is still UEFA's highest rated league. Given he and Villa carry on like that, I don't see why he can't make 89 by the end of the season. No?[/quote']

he will rise +2 like andre ayew did for marseille. then if albrighton keeps play well he gets his 88 by end of season.

no one ever rises 84-88 unless they strong regulars for barca/real/man united or some other elite team.

name me one example if you disagree.

and im not starting an argument here "sm system not good etc". the system is what it is and we deal with it.

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A lot of the players mentioned are clearly not going to reach 90+ within 2011 (maybe in the future but NOT within 2011).

Albrighton? Cahill? Illic? Coutinho? Hutton? No chance.

Hutton isn't good enough atm.

Coutinho is currently injured.

Cahill is at Bolton and has no reason to have a rating higher than Samba at Rovers.

Albrighton and Coutinho are too young, SM doesn't like to make realistic ratings for youngsters unless they are at the big clubs.

Some players that should teach 90+ (not already mentioned)

- Sven Bender, Certain starter alongside Sahin in the Bourissa Dortmund team that is topping the Bundesliga (bender to 90 and Sahin to 91)

- Gervinho, Scoring for fun in french leagues. currently at 89 so not a massive jump

Renato Augusto, quality player at Leverkusen, been hitting the heights in last couple fo weeks since returning from injury.

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"Albrighton? Cahill? Illic? Coutinho? Hutton?"

Hutton - no chance

Albrighton - no chance

Cahill - needs a move to a big club to hit 90

Coutinho - Massimo Morati says he is the future of the club and wants to see him progress, he will play and I can definitely see him getting to 90 before 2012.

Ilicic - If he keeps playing as he has done so far this season will be in line for a +2 in the next changes but only due to sm rising setup, he is worth more than that, then another +2 or else 2x +1's before the end of the year. He is playing like a 90 rated player but sm has to be conservative.

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"Albrighton? Cahill? Illic? Coutinho? Hutton?"

Hutton - no chance

Albrighton - no chance

Cahill - needs a move to a big club to hit 90

Coutinho - Massimo Morati says he is the future of the club and wants to see him progress' date=' he will play and I can definitely see him getting to 90 before 2012.

Ilicic - If he keeps playing as he has done so far this season will be in line for a +2 in the next changes but only due to sm rising setup, he is worth more than that, then another +2 or else 2x +1's before the end of the year. He is playing like a 90 rated player but sm has to be conservative.[/quote']

albrighton is the best villa player. they have 90 players so why not. 84-86-88-90 or 84-86-88-89-90

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Depending on Leverkusen's form, I wouldnt write off a 90 for Eren Derdiyok towards the end of 2011. It's crazy that he isn't 89 at the moment considering he plays just as much as 89 rated Helmes and 90 rated Kiessling.

Diego Alves is set to move to Valencia in the Summer so could get a rise to 90 when he's first choice there.

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Great Thread and I like the extra analysis for each player.

A suggestion if I may:

In the header for each player I'd suggest providing a bit more information, as follows:

Theo WALCOTT (Arsenal) - Wing®/Fwd - 21 - 89 ==> 90/91

I know you are listing the players by position, but many have dual positions, if not more, so it would be great to show some of the alternate positions. I also put the ® in under winger, as I generally favor both-footed wingers in the sim for maximum flexibility.

Again, keep up the great work,

LiamBrady

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I'm not saying those players like albrighton and coutinho won't reach 90+ (on the contrary i think they will). Just not this year.

As for Derdiyok' date=' i rate him highly but his goal scoring record for a centre forward is holding him back[/quote']

Michael Owen is 89 and barely plays anymore. Bendtner is also 89, again not playing too much. Thus I think someone like Derdiyok who gets into a team over a 89/90 striker should be rated as such.

Put it this way, if Hernandez was starting as many or more games than Berbatov and Rooney, you'd expect him to be rated closer to them

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I'm not saying those players like albrighton and coutinho won't reach 90+ (on the contrary i think they will). Just not this year.

As for Derdiyok' date=' i rate him highly but his goal scoring record for a centre forward is holding him back[/quote']

coutinho wont cause hes been injured and cant crack inter lineup until fully healthy

albrighton could reach 90 in 3 ratings. 84-86-88-90. if he play well. england will be reviewed 3 more times this year. so not extremely likely but definitely not "no chance".

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A* thread lad, just thought I'd make a few suggestions. :D

Bearing in mind that the 'major' leagues are set to be reviewed at least 3 times before the end of 2011 (assuming that SM's fingers weren't crossed behind their back) then there's plenty of opportunities for new 90+ rated players. ;)

Vertonghen

One of the top defenders in the Eredivisie, and constantly linked with pastures new further afield than the boundaries of Holland, the Belgian is a stalwart internationally and one of the first 89 players I could think of who IMO already deserve 90.

Sakho

Top defender at a club in resurgence, 90 before the end of 2011 is almost inevitable, and it would help it if he moved to a certain North London club that he's been linked with over the years. The one that doesn't want to up sticks to West London if you didn't know.

Assou-Ekotto

90 standard, and if not, close on it. Probably close to rising last time around.

M'Bia

Great DM, even better centre back. Likely to rise within a couple of changes.

Emanuelson

Should the Dutchman grab the bull by the horns and force his way into the Milan starting XI, a 90 should come relatively easily given their fantastic season and the potential Serie A crown coming their way. If he plays well and Milan keep up their form it's nigh on guaranteed.

Baines

Possible departee at Goodison in the Summer (Munich p'raps?) if their season ends badly, and he's showed on many occasions this season that he's '90 standard'. Shame Ashley Cole still plays for England.

Koscielny

His form has picked up of late and Arsenal are having a good season thus far, ought to be 90 by the end of 2011 if this situation continues, but he needs to get 89 first!

Forlin

Having a great season at Espanyol, and being constantly linked with bigger and better clubs. Whereas 89 is probably more likely than 90 at the end of the year, if a good club comes in for his signature and he features heavily then who knows?

Honda

I <3 Keisuke right now! Top dog for Japan, and itching to move on from CSKA (plenty willing to scratch...), 90 is realistic in the imminent Russian changes and assuming that the Summer break in Russia reults in his transfer out of the country, 91 or dare I say 92 isn't out of his reach.

Wilshere

It's fair to say that a +2 would be warranted for the young Englishman, who at this stage in his career is every bit as critical to the Arsenal engine room as Fabregas this season, his place in the starting lineup is guaranteed when fully fit and he's knocking on England's door. IMO 90 is inevitable, and he's already 90 standard in my eyes. Like Pedro, Bale etc., it just takes a while for SM to recognise that on the database. Sure he's three off it, but Jack can hit the big nine o.

Diaby

Bit iffy, this one. Song/Cesc/Jack have made the midfield 3 their own this seaosn and I cannot see Arsene Wenger changing the 433 system given its success thus far. Undeniably a top player, but unless he can force his way back into contention for a starting berth his development may stall.

Blazzydoohickiekoyskiy

Starting for Dortmund? Check. Rated under 88? Check. The Pole meets all the criteria to reach 90 in a few changes. But seriously, he's a starter for his national side and pumping out good performances for the champions incumbent in Germany, and given the ratings boost the Dortmund team is going to recieve between now and the Summer, it's fair to say he's got a very good chance to hit 90.

Hazard

Guaranteed starter for Lille and Belgium, and starring for his club, surely 90 is possible before the Summer, never mind the fact that Arsenal and Madrid are very interested in his signature...

Xabi Prieto

Yeah, he's rated 87, but Prieto's been a diamond in the rough this season in La Liga, and given the number of changes Spain is set to get, he could one up his way to 90 before 2012.

Renato Augusto

Attacking fulcru in a not-too-shabby Leverkusen side, 90 has been on the cards for ages and it's not unlikely that he'll finally get his rise before the year's out.

Luiz Gustavo

OK, so SM haven't declared their undying love for Bayern Munich just yet, but given the ratings of some of their players, it's clear for all to see that they're generous with the ratings of the Champions/also ran's players. Having walked in at the perfect time (MvB's departure to Milan complete), if the young Brazilian can cement himself in the Bavarian's starting lineup then a 90 before the end of the year is on the cards.

Gotze

A +3 to 88 would be fair on the young German given his immense contribution to Dortmund's phenomenal season, and a further +1/+2 would also be fair after they're crowned Champions. The kid's been a class act this season and can now start squadding for Loew's national side - the sky's the limit and 90 is a definite possibility in 2011.

Parker

When West Ham get relegated, it's a certainty that Talisman and star player Scott Parker won't be going over the edge with them. Whatever club snaps him up will make a very nice platform for him to hit 90 the changes after the 2011/12 PL season starts.

Adam Johnson

If Mancini played him as much as a lot of people think he should, then AJ would be a safe bet for 90 by the end of the season. Also in with a shout for England minutes.

Sven Bender

Another one who'll benefit from Dortmund's fine vein of form, an 89 by the end of the season is odds on, and if Dortmund keep their side together and avoid 'doing a Wolfsburg' then a further rise is plausible.

Hernandez

Fantatsic second fiddle/impact sub at United, a rise to 89 is very likely in the next PL changes, and as many will guess, 90 is sure to follow that provided he keeps stabbing them in.

Soldado

+1s for himself and his chum Aduriz. TIA.

Eduardo (<3)

Not on top form at the moment in Ukraine, but goals for fun ex gunner Eduardo and dud Chygrynskiy ought to have swapped ratings by the end of the year. His record thus far in the CL is testament to his ability, another outside chance though.

El Hamdaoui

Many believe he ought to have gotten 90 last time around, but after the Summer he'll be the main man after Suarez leaves (not to Liverpool whose £12.5m valuation of him says it all) and some Van Wolfswinkel (or similar) shaped package from the lower echelons of the Eredivisie arrives. Reasonable shot at 90.

Alexis Sanchez

The Chilean has undoubtedly outgrown Udi, where he's the star man. Also the star of an exciting, up and coming Chilean national side, 90 is on the cards before he leaves, and if he lands himself a big club to play at he could well be 91 at wherever he chooses to demonstrate his Ronaldo-esque wingsmanship.

Varela

Ought to get 90 after a deserved +2 last time 'round. Should get it within a couple of changes, and definitely once Porto reenter the CL as Portuguese Champions.

Neymar

The undoubted star of the South American continent (although I'd still have Jonas or Conca over him!) has begun to establish himself in Menezes Brazil squads, and is set for a Summer move to one of the World's biggest (richest...) clubs. A +1 to 89 is pretty likely and I wouldn't like to bet on him being rated lower than 90 before his 20th birthday.

Lukaku

87 -> 89 for the Belgian League's best player please. Oh, and after his move to one of Europe's biggest clubs in the Summer for £30m give him another +1 when he bangs in a few. TIA SM.

EDIT: IMO Bold Green have a chance at 91 before 2011's over. ;)

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A* thread lad' date=' just thought I'd make a few suggestions. :D

Bearing in mind that the 'major' leagues are set to be reviewed at least 3 times before the end of 2011 (assuming that SM's fingers weren't crossed behind their back) then there's plenty of opportunities for new 90+ rated players. ;)

[center']Vertonghen

One of the top defenders in the Eredivisie, and constantly linked with pastures new further afield than the boundaries of Holland, the Belgian is a stalwart internationally and one of the first 89 players I could think of who IMO already deserve 90.

Sakho

Top defender at a club in resurgence, 90 before the end of 2011 is almost inevitable, and it would help it if he moved to a certain North London club that he's been linked with over the years. The one that doesn't want to up sticks to West London if you didn't know.

Assou-Ekotto

90 standard, and if not, close on it. Probably close to rising last time around.

M'Bia

Great DM, even better centre back. Likely to rise within a couple of changes.

Emanuelson

Should the Dutchman grab the bull by the horns and force his way into the Milan starting XI, a 90 should come relatively easily given their fantastic season and the potential Serie A crown coming their way. If he plays well and Milan keep up their form it's nigh on guaranteed.

Baines

Possible departee at Goodison in the Summer (Munich p'raps?) if their season ends badly, and he's showed on many occasions this season that he's '90 standard'. Shame Ashley Cole still plays for England.

Koscielny

His form has picked up of late and Arsenal are having a good season thus far, ought to be 90 by the end of 2011 if this situation continues, but he needs to get 89 first!

Forlin

Having a great season at Espanyol, and being constantly linked with bigger and better clubs. Whereas 89 is probably more likely than 90 at the end of the year, if a good club comes in for his signature and he features heavily then who knows?

Honda

I <3 Keisuke right now! Top dog for Japan, and itching to move on from CSKA (plenty willing to scratch...), 90 is realistic in the imminent Russian changes and assuming that the Summer break in Russia reults in his transfer out of the country, 91 or dare I say 92 isn't out of his reach.

Wilshere

It's fair to say that a +2 would be warranted for the young Englishman, who at this stage in his career is every bit as critical to the Arsenal engine room as Fabregas this season, his place in the starting lineup is guaranteed when fully fit and he's knocking on England's door. IMO 90 is inevitable, and he's already 90 standard in my eyes. Like Pedro, Bale etc., it just takes a while for SM to recognise that on the database. Sure he's three off it, but Jack can hit the big nine o.

Diaby

Bit iffy, this one. Song/Cesc/Jack have made the midfield 3 their own this seaosn and I cannot see Arsene Wenger changing the 433 system given its success thus far. Undeniably a top player, but unless he can force his way back into contention for a starting berth his development may stall.

Blazzydoohickiekoyskiy

Starting for Dortmund? Check. Rated under 88? Check. The Pole meets all the criteria to reach 90 in a few changes. But seriously, he's a starter for his national side and pumping out good performances for the champions incumbent in Germany, and given the ratings boost the Dortmund team is going to recieve between now and the Summer, it's fair to say he's got a very good chance to hit 90.

Hazard

Guaranteed starter for Lille and Belgium, and starring for his club, surely 90 is possible before the Summer, never mind the fact that Arsenal and Madrid are very interested in his signature...

Xabi Prieto

Yeah, he's rated 87, but Prieto's been a diamond in the rough this season in La Liga, and given the number of changes Spain is set to get, he could one up his way to 90 before 2012.

Renato Augusto

Attacking fulcru in a not-too-shabby Leverkusen side, 90 has been on the cards for ages and it's not unlikely that he'll finally get his rise before the year's out.

Luiz Gustavo

OK, so SM haven't declared their undying love for Bayern Munich just yet, but given the ratings of some of their players, it's clear for all to see that they're generous with the ratings of the Champions/also ran's players. Having walked in at the perfect time (MvB's departure to Milan complete), if the young Brazilian can cement himself in the Bavarian's starting lineup then a 90 before the end of the year is on the cards.

Gotze

A +3 to 88 would be fair on the young German given his immense contribution to Dortmund's phenomenal season, and a further +1/+2 would also be fair after they're crowned Champions. The kid's been a class act this season and can now start squadding for Loew's national side - the sky's the limit and 90 is a definite possibility in 2011.

Parker

When West Ham get relegated, it's a certainty that Talisman and star player Scott Parker won't be going over the edge with them. Whatever club snaps him up will make a very nice platform for him to hit 90 the changes after the 2011/12 PL season starts.

Adam Johnson

If Mancini played him as much as a lot of people think he should, then AJ would be a safe bet for 90 by the end of the season. Also in with a shout for England minutes.

Sven Bender

Another one who'll benefit from Dortmund's fine vein of form, an 89 by the end of the season is odds on, and if Dortmund keep their side together and avoid 'doing a Wolfsburg' then a further rise is plausible.

Hernandez

Fantatsic second fiddle/impact sub at United, a rise to 89 is very likely in the next PL changes, and as many will guess, 90 is sure to follow that provided he keeps stabbing them in.

Soldado

+1s for himself and his chum Aduriz. TIA.

Eduardo (<3)

Not on top form at the moment in Ukraine, but goals for fun ex gunner Eduardo and dud Chygrynskiy ought to have swapped ratings by the end of the year. His record thus far in the CL is testament to his ability, another outside chance though.

El Hamdaoui

Many believe he ought to have gotten 90 last time around, but after the Summer he'll be the main man after Suarez leaves (not to Liverpool whose £12.5m valuation of him says it all) and some Van Wolfswinkel (or similar) shaped package from the lower echelons of the Eredivisie arrives. Reasonable shot at 90.

Alexis Sanchez

The Chilean has undoubtedly outgrown Udi, where he's the star man. Also the star of an exciting, up and coming Chilean national side, 90 is on the cards before he leaves, and if he lands himself a big club to play at he could well be 91 at wherever he chooses to demonstrate his Ronaldo-esque wingsmanship.

Varela

Ought to get 90 after a deserved +2 last time 'round. Should get it within a couple of changes, and definitely once Porto reenter the CL as Portuguese Champions.

Neymar

The undoubted star of the South American continent (although I'd still have Jonas or Conca over him!) has begun to establish himself in Menezes Brazil squads, and is set for a Summer move to one of the World's biggest (richest...) clubs. A +1 to 89 is pretty likely and I wouldn't like to bet on him being rated lower than 90 before his 20th birthday.

Lukaku

87 -> 89 for the Belgian League's best player please. Oh, and after his move to one of Europe's biggest clubs in the Summer for £30m give him another +1 when he bangs in a few. TIA SM.

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EDIT: IMO Bold Green have a chance at 91 before 2011's over. ;)

Great thread and a superb post.

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Hey guys. Thanks for all the suggestions; I have a bit of a lull in my other requirements now - essays are written and handed in - so I can get back to the important business of ratings predictions :P

So to kickstart the thread; Andy Carroll! I have him down for a 90 by 2012! Probably wouldnt have said that two days ago.

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Andrew CARROLL - 87 ==> 90

In the wake of a highly-publicised 35m move to Liverpool' date=' the Geordie is going to rise significantly. With Newcastle he was already odds-on for an 88/89, and alongside the talents of Gerrard, Meireles and Suarez he should prosper. Don't expect an immediate 90, but within a year I'd say it's 85% likely.

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Pah! My Aunt Carol has more chance of reaching 90. The guy is off down the self-help drink clinic just as soon as the goals dry up. As Bobby Robson said of Gascoigne: "He's as daft as a brush"

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First things first: very very very nice thread, good job!

suprised nobody mentioned Neymar.

89/90 after the current ratings. 90 at the end of the year!

EDIT: sry guys, He's mentioned below :)

What about Diego Perotti? very big potential! Could also hit 90 this year

Kevin Gameiro will also be a 90 rated player after the next ratings - 19 apps, 10 goals, 3 assists. (FOR LORIENT) See him playing for Bordeaux next season.

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Technically this is still on topic! :D

90+ rated players who oughtta rise, I can't be bothered going postal like my previous post on 'em, but IMO:

Neuer

Sagna, Kompany, Ivanovic, Marcelo, Subotic, Hummels, Luiz (appearances permitting), Coentrao

Nasri, Bale, Alonso, Ozil, Nani, Giggs (appearances/injuries permitting), Van der Vaart, Song, Hamsik, Khedira, Hernanes, Krasic, Cahill, Di Maria, Pastore, Danny, Valbuena, Sahin, Anderson (appearances permitting), Marchisio, Nene

Messi?, Ibrahimovic, Tevez, post-injury Higuain, Berbatov, Pedro, Pato, Hulk, Falcao, Cavani, Nilmar, Llorente, Barrios

Will have a shot at rising before the dawn of 2012. Certain that these guys will rise.

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