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Re: Respuesta: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Just hoping he would not get burnout' date=' 2 consecutive long summer for him now. Personally, I'm very looking forward to see him play next season.[/quote']

Luckily we don't have to worry about that. :)

Also do we think he deserves to go up 1 for winning the Copa and probably being the best player at the tournament? We all know quite a few players from the world cup received risers, the Copa America ofcourse is not the same, but is still a major tournament.

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Re: Respuesta: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Luckily we don't have to worry about that. :)

Also do we think he deserves to go up 1 for winning the Copa and probably being the best player at the tournament? We all know quite a few players from the world cup received risers' date=' the Copa America ofcourse is not the same, but is still a major tournament.[/quote']

I really hope not. It annoys me people get increases for the maximum 7 world cup games, and playing 6 games against pretty average teams (Bar Argentina and Brazil) shouldnt deserve a +1 imo.

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I really hope not. It annoys me people get increases for the maximum 7 world cup games' date=' and playing 6 games against pretty average teams (Bar Argentina and Brazil) shouldnt deserve a +1 imo.[/quote']

But you disclude both Argentina and Brazil, and look how far they progressed in the tournament :P

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Luckily we don't have to worry about that. :)

Also do we think he deserves to go up 1 for winning the Copa and probably being the best player at the tournament? We all know quite a few players from the world cup received risers' date=' the Copa America ofcourse is not the same, but is still a major tournament.[/quote']

no ofc he shouldnt rise.

he just got a 91 and has played well but relatively few games at liverpool.

why would people want him at 92 for a few good games for his country?

club form is by far more important. it is a factor, but no way should he get a rise just for his country appearances.

likewise he dosn't deserve a rise / wouldn't do just because he played well for 7/8 games for liverpool.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

no ofc he shouldnt rise.

he just got a 91 and has played well but relatively few games at liverpool.

why would people want him at 92 for a few good games for his country?

club form is by far more important. it is a factor' date=' but no way should he get a rise just for his country appearances.

likewise he dosn't deserve a rise / wouldn't do just because he played well for 7/8 games for liverpool.[/quote']

i agree, but i can see it happening by january (92)

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Well it would be completely stupid if the Copa America wasn't at all attributed to Suarez's possible rating change when the World Cup was and realistically it should be a big factor, especially as he was 2nd top scorer with 4 goals and Uruguay won the whole thing.

I would say Suarez only needs decent form for Liverpool to rise by the next change because of this.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

no ofc he shouldnt rise.

he just got a 91 and has played well but relatively few games at liverpool.

why would people want him at 92 for a few good games for his country?

club form is by far more important. it is a factor' date=' but no way should he get a rise just for his country appearances.

likewise he dosn't deserve a rise / wouldn't do just because he played well for 7/8 games for liverpool.[/quote']

Dougie's response sums up perfectly what i would've replied to you RIY.

Well it would be completely stupid if the Copa America wasn't at all attributed to Suarez's possible rating change when the World Cup was and realistically it should be a big factor' date=' especially as he was 2nd top scorer with 4 goals and Uruguay won the whole thing.

I would say Suarez only needs decent form for Liverpool to rise by the next change because of this.[/quote']

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

exactly. i want to make a point, i make a point. my opinion. take it or leave it. im a LFC fan and i watched every minute of Suarez since he arrived. the guy is immense. the copa america showcased to the world what he is capable on the big stage. he put guys like tevez, neymar, pato etc all the hype guys to shame.he will reach 92 by the turn of the year in my opinion.

LFC are a new force this season. its a completely different team. no reliance on one player anymore (Torres). now we look to 3/4 players (suarez, carroll, adam, downing) to change a game. too many people still playing on the fact we struggled first half of the year but if they would care to review our stats for the second half of the season its a different story. LFC will break the top 4 at the expense of arsenal this season.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

LFC are a new force this season. its a completely different team. no reliance on one player anymore (Torres). now we look to 3/4 players (suarez' date=' carroll, adam, downing) to change a game. too many people still playing on the fact we struggled first half of the year but if they would care to review our stats for the second half of the season its a different story. LFC will break the top 4 at the expense of arsenal this season.[/quote']

There's optimism and then there's lunacy. LOL @ Carroll, Adam and Downing being 'game changers'...

Classic case of counting your chickens before they've hatched.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

exactly. i want to make a point' date=' i make a point. my opinion. take it or leave it. im a LFC fan and i watched every minute of Suarez since he arrived. the guy is immense. the copa america showcased to the world what he is capable on the big stage. he put guys like tevez, neymar, pato etc all the hype guys to shame.he will reach 92 by the turn of the year in my opinion.

LFC are a new force this season. its a completely different team. no reliance on one player anymore (Torres). now we look to 3/4 players (suarez, carroll, adam, downing) to change a game. too many people still playing on the fact we struggled first half of the year but if they would care to review our stats for the second half of the season its a different story. [b']LFC will break the top 4 at the expense of arsenal this season.[/b]

It's the same every year. Arsenal are always the team to fall out of the top four and well it ended up being Liverpool.

Everyone is always on Arsenal's back, but Liverpool are not the team they once were either. Your team might be somewhat new, but I think you are expecting too much.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

There's optimism and then there's lunacy. LOL @ Carroll' date=' Adam and Downing being 'game changers'...

Classic case of counting your chickens before they've hatched.[/quote']

so you have them down as a fail then? they did better than average in poor sides last season. Carroll started the season well, if thats all we get from him this year and it gives us a few wins in Aug/Sept/Oct im happy as we were miserable last season at that point. Adam had enough plaudits through the season and Downing statistically was sound. We now have multiple outlets from which to score. a winger who can cross, a set play specialist and a big man up top. add to that suarez's attacking threat whether scoring or assisting & gerrard who has it in his locker to turn a game

its a better trio than N'gog, Poulsen and LW (which was who last season?-no one)

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

It's the same every year. Arsenal are always the team to fall out of the top four and well it ended up being Liverpool.

Everyone is always on Arsenal's back' date=' but [i']Liverpool are not the team they once were either[/i]. Your team might be somewhat new, but I think you are expecting too much.

what team were we? we havent had a good a side as this one for time. we have always got by on relying on just 1 or 2 players. (torres & gerrard, owen & gerrard) now we have a decent attacking unit.

champs league winning side should on paper have never got that far. but they did. but on paper now, we have a much more capable squad.

Arsenal have rode there luck long enough. this year will be the undoing. unless they spend before the season starts. same old story GK and CB.

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so you have them down as a fail then? they did better than average in poor sides last season. Carroll started the season well' date=' if thats all we get from him this year and it gives us a few wins in Aug/Sept/Oct im happy as we were miserable last season at that point. Adam had enough plaudits through the season and Downing statistically was sound. We now have multiple outlets from which to score. a winger who can cross, a set play specialist and a big man up top. add to that suarez's attacking threat whether scoring or assisting & gerrard who has it in his locker to turn a game

its a better trio than N'gog, Poulsen and LW (which was who last season?-no one)[/quote']

I'm sorry - are there only two types of players? Game Changers and Failures?

No. You're putting words in my mouth that I wouldn't say. It's more liek you still have the same 2 types of game changers - Torres replaced by Suarez and Gerrard.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

It's the same every year. Arsenal are always the team to fall out of the top four and well it ended up being Liverpool.

Everyone is always on Arsenal's back' date=' but Liverpool are not the team they once were either. Your team might be somewhat new, but I think you are expecting too much.[/quote']

I know, Arsenal have dropped out of the top 4 so many times according to fans and pundits it's laughable. Then the so knowledgeable experts say Arsene Wenger is still a rubbish manager because he hasn't won any silverware, as a back out excuse to their failed claim every single year.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

It's more liek you still have the same 2 types of game changers - Torres replaced by Suarez and Gerrard.

Carroll changed a fair bit games for Newcastle, so why not Liverpool? Plus with Adam we have a natural passer of the ball which helps the team create more chances.

You could define Downing as a 'game changer' as he could whip in a cross for Carroll to head in.

And you tell other people not to count their chickens before they hatch.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Let's take a step back and look at the situation:

  • Suarez will next be reviewed in the next PL review which is likely to be mid-December.
  • Before then Liverpool have around 15 league games in which Suarez could impress... or not.
  • Predicting a rise when a player has played 1/3 of the games he will before he's next reviewed is very rash. Anything could happen.

Note: I am not saying Suarez won't get 92 or is even unlikely to. I am merely saying it is ridiculous to make any kind of prediction based on what he's done so far.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Let's take a step back and look at the situation:

  • Suarez will next be reviewed in the next PL review which is likely to be mid-December.
  • Before then Liverpool have around 15 league games in which Suarez could impress... or not.
  • Predicting a rise when a player has played 1/3 of the games he will before he's next reviewed is very rash. Anything could happen.

Note: I am not saying Suarez won't get 92 or is even unlikely to. I am merely saying it is ridiculous to make any kind of prediction based on what he's done so far.

I thought the reviews for the five major league were Oct, Feb and May?

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Let's take a step back and look at the situation:

  • Suarez will next be reviewed in the next PL review which is likely to be mid-December.
  • Before then Liverpool have around 15 league games in which Suarez could impress... or not.
  • Predicting a rise when a player has played 1/3 of the games he will before he's next reviewed is very rash. Anything could happen.

Note: I am not saying Suarez won't get 92 or is even unlikely to. I am merely saying it is ridiculous to make any kind of prediction based on what he's done so far.

To be fair thou Stu, I seem to remember us having a lively debate when Suarez and Dzeko joined the PL, I said Suarez was class proper class and no matter what League he came from as many crab the Dutch League he would be the best signing of the year and is miles MILES better than Dzeko..... who would adapt etc??

I also said Andy Carroll was the biggest waste of 35m I have ever seen, the more I watch the more im convinced that when I said he was probably worth 20M I overestimated that as well. I so hope he proves me wrong but I cant see it happening the guy is so limited in terms of ability and totally changes the whole dynamic of the team for the worse it actually makes me angry. Give me a Dirk Kuyt(vastly underrated player) any day of the week :)

Champions League or not I know what one is more worthy of a 92......it aint even close.(Suarez,Dzeko)

Having said all that it does make me laugh as a Liverpool fan myself at certain fans saying we are gunna do this or that, we are still a LONG way behind Chavs,Dirty Mancs and the noisy neighbours. I agree 4th is all to play for as I personally think those 3 are ahead of the likes of Arsenal,Tottenham and ourselves, but there is certainly no guarentee its all hypothetical nobody knows how new players will integrate into there sides etc until the season starts.

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Re: New Premiership Ratings By MaoaM 2010/11

Let's take a step back and look at the situation:

  • Suarez will next be reviewed in the next PL review which is likely to be mid-December.
  • Before then Liverpool have around 15 league games in which Suarez could impress... or not.
  • Predicting a rise when a player has played 1/3 of the games he will before he's next reviewed is very rash. Anything could happen.

Note: I am not saying Suarez won't get 92 or is even unlikely to. I am merely saying it is ridiculous to make any kind of prediction based on what he's done so far.

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TBH their isn't much room for an argument on this matter' date=' [b']if SM are in a mood of feeling consistent[/b], then providing that Suarez keeps up his good form until the next review, he should be 92.

Thomas Muller, Ozil, Coentrao, just a few from the top of my head spring to mind who got an increase due to their fantastic performances at the WC, obviously they had kept up their good form during the season(Muller to a less extent), and i personally expect Suarez to have the same treatment.

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