darshan j. 1,162 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Re: German Changes A few risers from Bundesliga 2 leaders FC Kaiserslautern based on the first 6 games: 1) JENDRISEK, Erik: F 21/81; Currently their top scorer with 5 goals in 4 starts. 2) KOTYSCH, Sascha: DM/D 20/80; 4 starts from 6 so far. 3) OUATTARA, Moussa: CB 26/81; Started all their games thus far. 4) ****, Florian: RB/LB 23/80; Started all games so far. 5) BELLINGHAUSEN, Axel: DM/LM 25/81; Started all games. 6) DEMAI, Aimen: CM/RM 25/80; 5 of 6 possible starts, 1 sub appearance. *7) HESSE, Kai: W/F 23/74; 3 starts, 2 goals so far. Of course it's early days but at the rate these guys are going it looks like they are the first choice players, and aren't the highest rated at the club either. (Highest being 85, and not all are actually playing first team football) The next German changes are a long way away and so I will post again regarding these players when the time is approaching. (To whoever knows German football, I have absolutely no knowledge about Kaiserslautern; all I know is Klose used to play for them. I have based this completely on what I found at http://touchline.onthespot.co.uk/guardian/StatsCentre.asp?CTID=12&CPID=24&TEID=76&pStr=Squad_Stats&t=4) EDIT, BIG EDIT: One of the players names are censored.. it's actually D ick (without the space of course...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Re: German Changes Just to let you know second Bundesliga players aren't rated very highly mate. There are Bundesliga players who are getting same time same rating in the Bundesliga. But still, seeing how well they're doing the Kaiserslautern players are still great finds mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickyblue 116 Posted October 3, 2008 Report Share Posted October 3, 2008 Re: German Changes What would you like to know about them mate? r they any good i saw them in under 19 torn they played alright, any stats on them games played, goals scored? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes r they any good i saw them in under 19 torn they played alright' date=' any stats on them games played, goals scored? [/quote']They are getting good experience playing regularly for Freiburg who are always top competitors for being promoted to the Bundesliga. They have great talent and are gaining loads of experience at an early age. They're good mate, and are always improving. I can't say much bad about them due to their still young age and bright futures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gabor1981 77 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes They are getting good experience playing regularly for Freiburg who are always top competitors for being promoted to the Bundesliga. They have great talent and are gaining loads of experience at an early age. They're good mate' date=' and are always improving. I can't say much bad about them due to their still young age and bright futures. [/quote']Sorry but they actually both play for 1860 Munich....and unfortunately 1860 kinda struggle again this year. They both get good game time though. Right now 1860 is 10th in the 2.Bundesliga (after they won tonight and have 1 game more than most teams) and both twins play regularly. According to Kicker.de Lars Bender (3.25 Kicker average) is doing better than Sven (4.33 average). Lars Bender also started 5 of 7 games, Sven has 3 starts and 3 subs. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes Sorry but they actually both play for 1860 Munich....and unfortunately 1860 kinda struggle again this year. They both get good game time though. Right now 1860 is 10th in the 2.Bundesliga (after they won tonight and have 1 game more than most teams) and both twins play regularly. According to Kicker.de Lars Bender (3.25 Kicker average) is doing better than Sven (4.33 average). Lars Bender also started 5 of 7 games' date=' Sven has 3 starts and 3 subs.Cheers[/quote'] Sorry mate, totally forgot. Anyway the averages are very overinflated seeing as there haven't been many games yet. So this seasons ratings aren't accurate. You'd be better off also looking at last seasons. Still there haven't been many games played and 1860 Munchen are known as one of the better 2. Bundesliga sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozo Geericks 241 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes 1860 Munchen are known as one of the better 2. Bundesliga sides. Sorry LKK, but I have to disagree with you on that mate. I'd rather say the 2nd half of their 2007/2008 season was appaling. This season they are playing equal rubbish, but at least saving some of the points. I think they are badly mismanaged, sad as it is, for they have great young talents in abundance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes Sorry LKK' date=' but I have to disagree with you on that mate. I'd rather say the 2nd half of their 2007/2008 season was appaling. This season they are playing equal rubbish, but at least saving some of the points. I think they are badly mismanaged, sad as it is, for they have great young talents in abundance.[/quote']Hey mate, they have so many good players. I realize they've been poor lately but they definitely have the potential to advance. That's what I'm trying to say. Also don't you think that they're in the top 9 of best teams in the 2. Bundesliga? I mean do you value Wehen Wiesbaden, FC Augsburg, FSV Frankfurt, TuS Koblenz, Rot-Weiss Oberhausen, FC Ingolstadt, VFL Osnabruck, Rot-Weiss Ahlen and FC St. Pauli ahead of 1860 Munchen? I personally believe that 1860 Munchen has a much bigger chance of being successful then the teams that I listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gabor1981 77 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes Hey mate' date=' they have so many good players. I realize they've been poor lately but they definitely have the potential to advance. That's what I'm trying to say. Also don't you think that they're in the top 9 of best teams in the 2. Bundesliga? I mean do you value Wehen Wiesbaden, FC Augsburg, FSV Frankfurt, TuS Koblenz, Rot-Weiss Oberhausen, FC Ingolstadt, VFL Osnabruck, Rot-Weiss Ahlen and FC St. Pauli ahead of 1860 Munchen? I personally believe that 1860 Munchen has a much bigger chance of being successful then the teams that I listed. [/quote']You are right in terms of potential as 1860 played many years in the Bundesliga not too long ago. They have many talents but failed to play good ball the last 2 years now. Most of the teams u mentioned are small lower league clubs that havent even been playing 2. Bundesliga every year. I hope 1860 is doing better soon (I think they will) and they probably should finish top 8 in the 2. Bundesliga. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Re: German Changes You are right in terms of potential as 1860 played many years in the Bundesliga not too long ago. They have many talents but failed to play good ball the last 2 years now. Most of the teams u mentioned are small lower league clubs that havent even been playing 2. Bundesliga every year. I hope 1860 is doing better soon (I think they will) and they probably should finish top 8 in the 2. Bundesliga.Cheers My point with those teams I mentioned was that 1860 Munchen are one of the better 2. Bundesliga teams. That's because Kgosser told me they weren't. That's why I mentioned all of those players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfurtek 32 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes Anyone know why Neuer hasn't played a single game this season? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gizb 4,191 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes i think he was injured. I am not sure, but i think he played last thursday for Uefa cup, so he might play today for league Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickyblue 116 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes many thanks for info on bender twins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
col lufc # 3,648 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes Anyone know why Neuer hasn't played a single game this season? A broken foot but it looks like he's back now He played on Thursday in the UEFA Cup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes many thanks for info on bender twins No problem mate. Anyone know why Neuer hasn't played a single game this season? As has been mentioned he was injured. However have any of you guys seen some Schalke games while he's been gone. Did you guys see Fahrmann play in net? If so, what did you guys think of the young keeper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozo Geericks 241 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes No problem mate. As has been mentioned he was injured. However have any of you guys seen some Schalke games while he's been gone. Did you guys see Fahrmann play in net? If so' date=' what did you guys think of the young keeper?[/quote'] Neuer is back after injury and he returned to Bundesliga football with a number of fine saves against Wolfsburg tonight. What's more, he even had an assist (!!!) for Kuranyi in the 93rd minute! As for Fährmann, I think he's class. That's why I've launched a separate thread on him LKK I agree with you re 1860's potential. The only problem is they have trouble converting it to points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Re: German Changes Neuer is back after injury and he returned to Bundesliga football with a number of fine saves against Wolfsburg tonight. What's more' date=' he even had an assist (!!!) for Kuranyi in the 93rd minute!As for Fährmann, I think he's class. That's why I've launched a separate thread on him LKK I agree with you re 1860's potential. The only problem is they have trouble converting it to points.[/quote'] Hmm, did he even have any saves in the game though? Didn't see any. I was much more impressed with Benaglio. Fahrmann was good, he let in many goals (which could be distracting for talent finders) but when I watched them he had like no chance with any goal he let in. I think I'll check out your thread mate, because I support that player. EDIT: Can't find that thread. EDIT AGAIN: Found it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James C 1,084 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: German Changes Klose is having a good season now he has been decreased :S 4 goals and 5 assists i heard on TV, and he also scored for Germany.. Hope he can maintain this form and get back up to 94. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: German Changes Klose is having a good season now he has been decreased :S4 goals and 5 assists i heard on TV' date=' and he also scored for Germany.. Hope he can maintain this form and get back up to 94.[/quote'] Klose's statistics so far: Bundesliga = 10 starts, 4 goals and 6 assists. His performances have only been good though, nothing special. Champions League = 3 starts, 1 goals and 1 assist. Amazing performances in the Champions League. DFB Pokal = 2 starts 2 goals. Also amazing performances in the DFB Pokal. He has been playing very well so far. But remember what happened last season? Beutiful first half of the season and second half was left with bad performances, no goals and only 1 assist. Let's hope that doesn't happen this season. But that's nothing compared to Ibisevic. Bundesliga = 11 starts, 13 goals and 6 assists. With best general performances in the whole Bundesliga. DFB Pokal = 2 starts with 1 goal. Not to mention that Ibisevic is rated 85 as opposed to Klose who's 93. EDIT: Not only does nobody have no more goals then him (obviously, the margin is 5 goals) but also nobody has more assists then him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James C 1,084 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: German Changes yeah Ibasevic is doing great. I am just happy Klose is playing well again. Sadly though games from Germany arent being shown as regular as they were at the start of the season for some reason, or they changed the schedual so I keep missing them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: German Changes Ok, so here are some threads I made. If you haven't already checked them out already I highly suggest that you do because they could be very helpful and help some of your clubs, especially the smaller ones. 2. Bundesliga U-75 (rated) risers http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=31848 Marcel Schmelzer (80) Dortmund Starter http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=31802 Stefano Celozzi (80) Karlsruhe Starter http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=31809 Vedad Ibisevic - Bundesliga Goalscoring Machine http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=28476 75 (rated) Bundesliga Koln Regular (Kevin Pezzoni) http://forum.soccermanager.com/showthread.php?t=31652 Also if you have any questions regarding German players, whether you are considering selling or considering buying one you feel free to ask me on this thread (or PM me) about how they're doing right now in reality and a predicted rating. I'd be happy to help, cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Re: German Changes yeah Ibasevic is doing great.I am just happy Klose is playing well again. Sadly though games from Germany arent being shown as regular as they were at the start of the season for some reason' date=' or they changed the schedual so I keep missing them [/quote'] Ya that's the same here, however for me that's because the Spanish League started so for my program in Canada they play the La Liga games on Sunday and no Bundesliga games (only on Saturday). Also about Klose, let's cross our fingers that he doesn't drop form like last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xpratx 1,905 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Re: German Changes ivica olic thiago nevez ricardo osario will they keep their ratings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lil_kick_kid 1,286 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Re: German Changes ivica olicthiago nevez ricardo osario will they keep their ratings? Ivica Olic - Ivica Olic has started all 11 games scoring 3 goals and getting 1 assist. However in the Bundesliga his performances haven't been so good. He also had 2 starts and 1 sub in in the UEFA Cup scoring 1 goal. His performances weren't good there either. Also 1 start and 1 sub in the DFB Pokal scoring 2 goals and getting 1 assist where he performed very well. And he also has 62 caps for the Croatian national team. However if he keeps up this form I predict: 91 -> 90/91 Thiago Neves - Thiago Neves has started 2 games and has been subbed in 3 times. In these games he has gotten 2 assists and hasn't played that well. Also 1 UEFA Cup sub appearance where he played horribly. Also only 1 cap for Brazil. If he keeps up not playing so many games and keeps up his poor form like right now my rating prediction is: 90 -> 89 Ricardo Osorio - Ricardo Osorio has started 6 games getting an assist. His performances have not been that great' date=' decent but not that good. Also 2 horrible UEFA Cup starts. But he also started 2 DFB Pokal games where he played very well. He also has 62 caps for Mexico. However his performances just haven't been that good. My predicted rating:[/b'] 90 -> 89/90 Remember that these predictions are only if these players keep up their current form. This is because the German rating changes are still a while away. Cheers mate! xpratx 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hercule Poirot 7,969 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Re: German Changes I disagree about Neves. Excellent player and was good for Brazil in the olympics and hence missed some games. Though he is not playing enough right now I think he is a star of the future and would be dissapointed if SM decreases him:mad: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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