Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Is Schelotto from Atalanta worth picking up? Yup he is. He reminds me with Mauro Camoranesi. Linked with a move to Roma, Inter and Juve. arampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozua 1,956 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Is Schelotto from Atalanta worth picking up? Don't hesitate, huge talent who as Pitung said is linked with some big Italian clubs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dancpoli 21,768 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Yup he is. He reminds me with Mauro Camoranesi.Linked with a move to Roma' date=' Inter and Juve.[/quote'] Does he have the ability to become a regular international player for Italy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Does he have the ability to become a regular international player for Italy? For now, NO. Prandelli usually playing with 4-3-1-2. And Schelloto is a winger. But I'm sure he'll called to NT in the future. dancpoli and AdaM EFC 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dancpoli 21,768 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) For now' date=' NO. Prandelli usually playing with 4-3-1-2. And Schelloto is a winger.But I'm sure he'll called to NT in the future.[/quote'] Yeah, I didn't mean now...but in the future. Cheers bud Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AdaM EFC 11,442 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Nice one for for help lads, hopefully he gets a move as I have been lacking a decent winger in this team for a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Newman 12,138 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Thanks for the help lads Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drink 1,718 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Bonucci was expected to stay/rise, he stayed. Any opinions on his potential/Whether he'll rise next changes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Bonucci was expected to stay/rise' date=' he stayed.Any opinions on his potential/Whether he'll rise next changes?[/quote'] Personally, i don't want to answer any questions about Leo. Because I've explained the details about him thousand times in this thread I'm sure he'll got 90 in next change. Nuff said Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Village 2,090 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Bonucci was expected to stay/rise' date=' he stayed.Any opinions on his potential/Whether he'll rise next changes?[/quote'] LOL who's that crazy man that expected him to rise? He had to stay, he didn't deserve a 90 rating He's not as good as he was thought to be, he has a nice individual technique to be a CB, but he's average as far as the defensive phase is concerned.. I expect him to join the 90's club only if Juve win Serie A or keep on being very close to Milan, but he's nothing special Of course he's still very young, so he ha all the time of the world to improve, but it depends on Juventus summer transfers: they seem to be interested in Vidic, so Bonucci might be forced to stay on the bench or to be sold (maybe in Russia) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) LOL who's that crazy man that expected him to rise? He had to stay' date=' he didn't deserve a 90 rating He's not as good as he was thought to be, he has a nice individual technique to be a CB, but he's average as far as the defensive phase is concerned.. I expect him to join the 90's club only if Juve win Serie A or keep on being very close to Milan, but he's nothing special Of course he's still very young, so he ha all the time of the world to improve, but it depends on Juventus summer transfers: they seem to be interested in Vidic, so Bonucci might be forced to stay on the bench or to be sold (maybe in Russia) [/quote'] Really ? Leo have a quality, I'm sure about that. He just signed new contract till 2017. Even if Juve signed new CB, Whoever is him, he'll be a long-term replacement for Barza, not Leo. drink 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drink 1,718 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Really ?Leo have a quality' date=' I'm sure about that. He just signed new contract till 2017. Even if Juve signed new CB, Whoever is him, he'll be a long-term replacement for Barza, not Leo.[/quote'] Contrasting opinions but I'll believe you since you're a Juve fan. P.S Jakarta fried rice = best fried rice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Village 2,090 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Really ?Leo have a quality' date=' I'm sure about that. He just signed new contract till 2017. Even if Juve signed new CB, Whoever is him, he'll be a long-term replacement for Barza, not Leo.[/quote'] I'm italian and I support Juventus, so I continuously watch them play, and it has been the rule for years I can tell you without doubts that Bonucci is nothing special.. He has a nice technique to be a CB, but his positional sense is nothing special He's being good in the last macthes as he's galvanized (like all Juventus players), but true Juventus supporters can't forget his previous mistakes so easily Zenit have tried to buy him insistently and they have enough money to satisfy Agnelli's requests, so I guess that if Juve find a good replacement and if Zenit are still ready to buy him, he'll leave I've been positively impressed by Caceres too, very mature and reliable player, so I guess that we already have a long-term replacement for king Barza Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) I'm italian and I support Juventus' date=' so I continuously watch them play, and it has been the rule for years I can tell you without doubts that Bonucci is nothing special.. He has a nice technique to be a CB, but his positional sense is nothing special He's being good in the last macthes as he's galvanized (like all Juventus players), but true Juventus supporters can't forget his previous mistakes so easily Zenit have tried to buy him insistently and they have enough money to satisfy Agnelli's requests, so I guess that if Juve find a good replacement and if Zenit are still ready to buy him, he'll leave I've been positively impressed by Caceres too, very mature and reliable player, so I guess that we already have a long-term replacement for king Barza [/quote'] Oh so only Italian who knows Italian football ?? Yes, I'm not Italian. I'm also Juve fan. Yes, he makes some terrible mistakes this season. But, He also makes some great tackling and long pass. He have a quality to be world-class defender. He just need to more concentrated in high-pressure match, say, vs Milan or Inter. For Caceres, yes he's talented lad and very versatile. We also should not forget Barzagli in last season, He playing very badly, now he has improved alot. Well I'm sure i could wrong on Bonucci, but yeah, I'm just giving my opinion. Only time will tell... arampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Village 2,090 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/ Oh so only Italian who knows Italian football ?? LOL who said that? I only underlined that I'm italian because it's quite obvious that living in Italy allows me to have more informations about italian football.. Calm down mate' date=' it was a way to say that I'm not talking because "I read it somewhere" or "in SM forum it is said to be..", but because every day I hear comments about him and every week I watch him.. There was absolutely no need to make this statement Yes, I'm not Italian. I'm also Juve fan.Yes, he makes some terrible mistakes this season. But, He also makes some great tackling and long pass. He have a quality to be world-class defender. He just need to more concentrated in high-pressure match, say, vs Milan or Inter. For Caceres, yes he's talented lad and very versatile. We also should not forget Barzagli in last season, He playing very badly, now he has improved alot. Well I'm sure i could wrong on Bonucci, but yeah, I'm just giving my opinion. Only time will tell... So we're saying the same thing.. I said that he has a nice individual technique to be a CB and you said that he makes nice long passes; I said that he made terrible mistakes, but now is playing better because he's galvanized, you said that he made terrible mistakes but also good tackling.. We agree on Caceres.. And we agree that Barza is making a great season (even though I also think that last season he wasn't that bad, he was simply alone in the dark because even Chiellini was awful last season) As for Bonucci, of course these are just predictions, I didn't want to say that I'm surely right or that you're surely wrong, he asked an opinion and I gave mine (in a polite way, I guess) Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-JMH- 8,575 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2 LOL who said that? I only underlined that I'm italian because it's quite obvious that living in Italy allows me to have more informations about italian football.. Calm down mate' date=' it was a way to say that I'm not talking because "I read it somewhere" or "in SM forum it is said to be..", but because every day I hear comments about him and every week I watch him.. There was absolutely no need to make this statement So we're saying the same thing.. I said that he has a nice individual technique to be a CB and you said that he makes nice long passes; I said that he made terrible mistakes, but now is playing better because he's galvanized, you said that he made terrible mistakes but also good tackling.. We agree on Caceres.. And we agree that Barza is making a great season (even though I also think that last season he wasn't that bad, he was simply alone in the dark because even Chiellini was awful last season) As for Bonucci, of course these are just predictions, I didn't want to say that I'm surely right or that you're surely wrong, he asked an opinion and I gave mine (in a polite way, I guess) Cheers[/quote'] I find pitung very knowledgable on serie a and have had plenty of decent opinions from him. I'd like to hear what ur opinion is on Fausto Rossi, being an Italian supporting juve,..thx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Village 2,090 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Riferimento: Re: Serie A - Ratings I find pitung very knowledgable on serie a and have had plenty of decent opinions from him. I never said that he's not knowledgeable or that he's wrong' date=' I respect him and we agree on many things.. We only have a different point of view about Bonucci, but this is quite normal I'd like to hear what ur opinion is on Fausto Rossi, being an Italian supporting juve,..thx Fausto Rossi is a good talent IMO.. Very good dribbler, quick feet and nice shot.. As far as his individual technique is concerned, his main problem is that he only uses his right foot and he's too skinny, he has to improve his muscles to be dangerous in higher competitions That said, he plays in Italy, which is never good for youngsters (unless they are in some selected clubs like Udinese and Roma).. I'm sure that even Pitung will agree that italian clubs hardly trust youngsters.. They prefer experienced players, as italian mentality towards youngsters is awful and italian championship is very muscular.. The proof is that all young players must play in lower divisions several years before being called in Serie A For example, Giovinco (which is a very good player IMO) didn't play in Juventus at the beginning of his career, being on loan at Empoli for several years.. The same applies to El Shaarawy, who was on loan to Padova last year and is far from being a starter in Milan nowadays because of his young age.. The same applies to Criscito, sold by Juventus when he was still young and the same applies to Rossi, forced to fight to gain some appereances in italian Serie B To sum up, Rossi himself is surely a very good talent, that kind of player that, if followed properly, can become a great wing.. Nevertheless, he plays in Italy, so if you want tu buy/keep him you should be aware that he's a long term/very long term buy arampage, -JMH- and Jozua 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pitung Drughi 1,790 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Agree with Village about Fausto. He's blessed talents, I rate him highly. But, like Village said below, it will take few years for him to play regularly in Serie A. It's still depend on where he'll move or what he has done. These days, not much teams in Serie A, giving 18-22 y.o players alot of game times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozua 1,956 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Agree with Village about Fausto.He's blessed talents' date=' I rate him highly. But, like Village said below, it will take few years for him to play regularly in Serie A. It's still depend on where he'll move or what he has done. [b']These days, not much teams in Serie A, giving 18-22 y.o players alot of game times.[/b] It's a very good point, Mazzarri is terrible at giving youngsters a chance at Napoli. Our defence has been poor all season for the most part, Aronica is a liability and yet he gets started over players like Fernandez and Fideleff who are rotting on the bench or in the reserves. It's no coincidence that all the top Italian sides have high average age in the starting XI. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Like_A_Boas 8,954 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) If given the choice, if money was tight and Benatia was 5m more than Barzagli, who would you sign lads? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmwe36 348 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) If given the choice' date=' if money was tight and Benatia was 5m more than Barzagli, who would you sign lads?[/quote']Benatia for sure,because of age and because of skill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jan klaasen 24 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) could someone smart tell me the story of ranocchia, is he any good for the future. he isn't playing atm, someone know why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmwe36 348 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) could someone smart tell me the story of ranocchia' date=' is he any good for the future. he isn't playing atm, someone know why?[/quote']the manager of inter dont like him.simply as that.he is good,even if i'm a AC Milan fan,i like ranocchia,he is good.maybe next year he will be a starter for Inter,samuel's contract is almost over,and chivu is in the same situation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dancpoli 21,768 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Giovinco - How talented is he? Potential to be a 90+ player? arampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jozua 1,956 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Re: Serie A - Ratings Prediction 2010/2011 (II) Giovinco - How talented is he? Potential to be a 90+ player? Very talented young player who definitely has the potential to be a 90 in the future, he's got great technical skills and is very nippy due to his small stature. There's talk of him being the long term replacement for ADP at Juve, with La Vecchia Signora looking at buying back Parma's stake in him this summer but Pitung might have more inside information on that! He's impressed the last two seasons at Parma so i think he should be ready to move up to the next level and start establishing himself at one of the top Italian sides fairly soon. Prandelli is also giving him game time for the National side, which can only be a good thing, and i'd say he was a sure bet to be included in the Euro 2012 squad. Definitely a player to keep an eye on dancpoli and arampage 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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