Counter formations

[Kris007d 0]

17 minutes ago, Kris007d said:

This doesn’t work with team average rating 60s

i use 352

vs the 3-2-2-2-1

and still get beat bad vs higher rate team

 

Does not matter what I choose attacking hard or defending still ends up a loss

[palyo 11]

the easiest way to counter a formation is to use the same formation but set it up to exploit opponent's rating deficiencies \ make use of your rating superiority \ enhace your attack or defense in an equal game. you can achieve all this with arrows and team instructions.

of course you can also achieve this by changing formation but if you go that way remember that a formation only tackles 1 aspect of another formation. for example 433a tackles 4231b midfield and exploits the defensive midfielders which limits 4231b attacking potential but doesnt help you much in terms of scoring goals. you can also go with 424 against 4231b that exploits 4231b defense - in an equal game its possible to outscore them, if you're stronger then its likely you would outscore them. 

then again as mentioned formations can be played in different ways so you can enhance different areas of your team. its not as simple as formation vs formation, might seem that way in public gameworlds but not the case in competitive private ones

[Milanista1 1,765]

@palyo

Good day and good health to you. 

Do you advise us with the above 👆 information because you (clearly) know how the game engine works? Or is it from years of experience playing around with the different formations on SM.

[Alfino 10]

Best way to counter 4231A? He is 1 point stronger

[Zlatanized 0]

On 6/4/2011 at 5:26 PM, Hyina said:

Re: Counter formations

Updated Version!!!:

In my experience at managing and also general comprehension of tactics, I think that:

To counter 4-4-2, I would use 3-4-2-1 with diagonal arrows on players 10 & 11, 3-5-2, or 4-4-1-1

To counter 4-3-3, use any formation with 5 in the midfield

To counter 4-5-1, use 5-3-2, as suggested by arampage

To counter 3-4-3, use 4-2-3-1

To counter 3-5-2, use 4-5-1 defensive or 4-1-3-2

To counter 3-3-4, use 4-4-2 or 3-5-2

To counter 5-4-1, use 3-5-2

To counter 5-3-2, use 3-2-2-2-1 or 4-3-3 wingers

To counter 5-2-3, use 4-5-1 defensive

To counter 4-4-2 diamond, use 3-5-2 or 3-2-2-2-1

To counter 4-3-3 wingers, use 3-4-2-1 or 3-5-2

To counter 4-5-1 defensive, use 3-4-2-1

To counter 4-2-3-1, use 4-5-1 defensive or default 4-4-2

To counter 4-3-2-1, use 4-2-3-1

To counter 4-4-1-1, use 4-3-3 wingers

To counter 4-3-1-2, use 3-4-3 or 5-3-2

To counter 3-4-1-2, use 4-5-1

To counter 3-4-2-1, use 4-2-3-1 or 4-5-1

To counter 5-3-2 defensive, use 3-4-3

To counter 4-2-4, use 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or 4-5-1

To counter 4-2-2-2, use 3-5-2

To counter 4-1-3-2, use 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 wingers

To counter 3-2-2-2-1, use 3-5-2

Hope you enjoy! And start winning games from now on too!

Note, if you have used this advice and lost a game, please post it in this thread so I can have a careful look and maybe change it.

NOTE NOTE: It seems that after SM changed, the counters have mostly stopped working as well as before, as randomisation has been added chance results are more likely to happen (i.e. 352 might not thrash a 442 and 433 wingers might lose to 352 etc.) if you encounter such results post the report here and me and fellow forumers will help you out

P.S. I have un-subscribed from this thread myself due to increasing work load and other reasons.

What instructions should be given?

[Patron 95]

What is the best formation to beat 4-3-2-1 B?

League max rating 80, so every team has similar ratings.

Thanks 

[BrutBrutBrut 227]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:31 AM, Zlatanized said:

What instructions should be given?

I agree. Are people still using this 'bible' guide? I find it very useful, but advice on the best instructions would be great.