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What instructions should I use? I will play 4-3-3 wingers vs 3-5-2.

Tackling style' date=' mentality, passing % attacking style, tempo & pressing.

Thanks in advance :)[/quote']

LOL I trashed an average team with 352 against his 433 wingers :P .

Yea since the SM machine changed, it's totally changed now, and more balanced

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Re: Counter formations Updated Version!!!: In my experience at managing and also general comprehension of tactics, I think that: To counter 4-4-2, I would use 3-4-2-1 with diagonal arrows on player

In this thread I will tell you which formations counter which. This is a simple, down to earth thread, easy for everyone to use. Enjoy

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hello I'm new ' date=' form belguim on the dutch forum there is noboby ,only blabalbla...but i follow these instructies to counter.

my team on the strongst formatie = 89.80 have won before against the big teams wiht the counter formaties against real 5-2 -barca 0-3

but now the play all 4-3-3w and i loos every game.

have play 4-4-2dia in def. and attack 5x and 5x loos.

4-1-3-2 in 1xdef and 1xattack loos

5-2-3 in def 1x even and 1x loos.

what is my optie's to play against them?

THANKS.;)[/quote']

lol i wud try 352 just 2 c what happens - if the SM engine has really changed :o

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lol i wud try 352 just 2 c what happens - if the SM engine has really changed :o

in my game worold when playing 4-2-3-1 normaal against 4-3-3w away home all the teams have a won off 0-1 ore 0-2 the little teams even.

when playing at home all the teams have loos.

playing at home 4-2-3-1 against 4-4-2 dia +4-4-2 won away the loos

have some tactieks off the year 2007 and have now see today that these tactieks are work in my game worold with def.teams.

there is a def.with play at home and away but what i have see in my game the work for 85%.

Have the not chance to the year off 2007 ???

4-3-3W counter with 3-5-2/5-2-3/4-4-2dia if stronger/4-2-3-1

4-2-3-1 counter with 4-5-1

4-3-3 counter with 4-4-2/3-5-2/4-3-3W

4-4-2 counter with 3-5-2 +2am/cm+2dm/cm+counter+beh.the ball/4-4-2DIA/4-4-1-1/5-4-1in def./4-3-3W/4-2-3-1

4-5-1 counter with 4-4-2dia./3-2-2-2-1

5-3-2sw counter with 4-3-3W

4-2-4 counter with 4-3-3

4-4-1-1 counter with 4-5-1/3-5-2

4-2-2-2 counter with 4-4-2

3-2-2-2-1 counter with 4-3-3W /3-3-4/5-3-2SW

5-3-2def. counter with 3-4-1-2

4-3-1-2 counter with 5-3-2+arrow on 1 cf back to the cm play in def./4-3-3 with 2 arrows on the 2cm/am and no arrow on the dm in the mid. point to the board.

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in my game worold when playing 4-2-3-1 normaal against 4-3-3w away home all the teams have a won off 0-1 ore 0-2 the little teams even.

when playing at home all the teams have loos.

playing at home 4-2-3-1 against 4-4-2 dia +4-4-2 won away the loos

have some tactieks off the year 2007 and have now see today that these tactieks are work in my game worold with def.teams.

there is a def.with play at home and away but what i have see in my game the work for 85%.

Have the not chance to the year off 2007 ???

4-3-3W counter with 3-5-2/5-2-3/4-4-2dia if stronger/4-2-3-1 used to be the other way round but now the thingy has changed... oh this is just too confusing for me! :P

4-2-3-1 counter with 4-5-1 I've always used 541 and only drew once out of 8

4-3-3 counter with 4-4-2/3-5-2/4-3-3W Without a doubt 352 and 4231 is best countering a 433

4-4-2 counter with 3-5-2 +2am/cm+2dm/cm+counter+beh.the ball/4-4-2DIA/4-4-1-1/5-4-1in def./4-3-3W/4-2-3-1

4-5-1 counter with 4-4-2dia./3-2-2-2-1

5-3-2sw counter with 4-3-3W

4-2-4 counter with 4-3-3

4-4-1-1 counter with 4-5-1/3-5-2

4-2-2-2 counter with 4-4-2

3-2-2-2-1 counter with 4-3-3W /3-3-4/5-3-2SW

5-3-2def. counter with 3-4-1-2

4-3-1-2 counter with 5-3-2+arrow on 1 cf back to the cm play in def./4-3-3 with 2 arrows on the 2cm/am and no arrow on the dm in the mid. point to the board.

Red is what I agree with

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Happy new year, from me too!

Today i will play against Real, who play 3-5-2 attacking, with pointers forward to his wings. I will try 4-3-3 w, and if I lose-from 45 with 4-2-3-1, that how Papillon has write. My average rating is 91, playing with Borussia, now I am 3 place after 33 games. I will give feed back tommorow.Wish me luck, e realy need it ...:)

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happy new year' date=' from me too!

Today i will play against real, who play 3-5-2 attacking, with pointers forward to his wings. I will try 4-3-3 w, and if i lose-from 45 with 4-2-3-1, that how papillon has write. My average rating is 91, playing with borussia, now i am 3 place after 33 games. I will give feed back tommorow.wish me luck, e realy need it ...:)

good luck ! :D .

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i got the highest player ratings but iam always losing

i am sick of this match engine

if it doesn't depend on ratings so why am i buying these high rated players i tried 3-5-2 4-3-3 winger , 4-4-2 , 442diamond , 4231 , 5-3-2 sweeper ,4-5-1 ,almost all the formations and i lost in all of them why????????? and against lower rated teams

plzzzzzzzzzzzzz help

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Here is my result - Borussia vs Real M. 3-3.

av. r. 91 vs av. r 94

4-3-3 w vs 5-3-2

Moutinho - 57,75 Pepe - 75

LLorente - 69 Sahin - 88

Romaldinho - 89

Unlucky!!!:(

Poss 50-50

shots 10-8

shots on target 4-8

I play normal, def., mixed, down flangs, slow, own half vs normal, verry attacking, mixed, mixed, fast, all over. I dont use any arrows. Real play with arrows of his wingers forward.

Conclusions:

1.This counter sheme is working well, becouse i have lower average raiting, and i have 50% poss. I have made a drow, becouse of unlucky in the last minute of game. (2 goals in 88 and 89).

2. This counter sheme dosent give you great advantage, but is good for use, may be some with some little changes in indivudual order - i have used counterattack, tight making and man behind the ball.

3. Another sheme 4-2-3-1 dosent switch, becouse i dont lose after 45 min. and i cant say how good is she.

4. Now I am 4-th in my group :(, 2 points after 2-nd.

Borussia Dortmund

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Real Madrid

J.MOUTINHO 57, 75

F.LLORENTE 69

Полувреме

(0 - 0)F.PEPE 73

N.SAHIN 88

A.RONALDINHO 89

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Here is my result:

Borrusia Dortmund vs Real Madrid 3 -3

4-3-3 wings vs 5-3-2

average raiting 91 vs average raiting 94

Scores for Borussia: Moutinho 57,75, LLorente 69

Scores for Real: Pepe 73, Sahin 88, Ronaldiho 89

possesion 50% vs 50 %

shots : 10 vs 8

shots on target 4 vs 8

corners 5 vs 5

Unlucky!!!:(

I playied normal, deff., mixed, down both flangs, slow tempo, own half. Counterattack, man behind the ball, tight making. No arrows.

Real playied normal, attacking, switch after 60min on verry attacking, mixed, mixed, fast tempo, all over. Counterattack, use playmaker, use targetman. Arrows on wings forward.

Conclusions by me:

This counter sheme is good, becouse of advantage of average raiting that has Real, but she is not awful, becouse of possesion (50/50 and shots 10 vs 8, shots on target 4 vs 8). May be with little changes in individual settings will be better. I thing i am unlucky, becouse of drowing in last minutes (Real scores 88 and 89), if that has any point in SM simulator. I cant say anything about another sheme, that will switch, when i am lossing after 45 min - 4-2-3-1.

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Yesterday I played against an average team that plays 3-5-2. In the first half I played 4-5-1 defensive with all cm with arrows up and then the result was 1-1 as indicated by Hyina. Then in the 2 half I switched to 4-3-3 wingers and I lost 2-1 at the end.

Me vs Rival

46% - 54% (posesion)

9 - 6 (total shots)

8 - 5 (on target)

In the last league I only lost 3 games finishing 2 in the league. This year I already lost 3 of 4 games even if playing with the counter formations given in the 1 page. I do not know what is happening, can someone help me out please.Thanks in advance.

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I have these players at Man City but do not know which lineup to play Do you have any advice for this team:

1-J.HART-- Gk91

2-M.RICHARDS---RB/CB-90

3-G.CLICHY-- LB-91

4-V.KOMPANY---CB/D-M93

5-K.TOURE---CB/RB-90

6-Y.TOURE---CM/DM-93

7-D.SILVA---AM/Wing-94

8-S.NASRI---AM/Wing93

9-S.AGUERO---Fwd/Am-94

10-M.BALOTELLI---Fwd/Wing-90

11-C.TEVEZ---Fwd/Am-93

Substitutes

12-C.PANTILIMON-- Gk86

13-J.LESCOTT---CB/LB-89

14-G.BARRY---CM/DM-91

15-J.MILNER---CM/Wing-90

16-E.DZEKO, - CF-92

17-N.DE JONG---DM/CM-92

18-P.ZABALETA---Def/D-89

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try a standard 4-4-2 with default settings, i seem to play good when i set to default setting, but not sure if it takes anything in to account, but try it in a friendly match

lineup like this:

richards, kompany,k.toure, clichy,

silva, de.jong, y.toure, nasri

tevez, aguero

default settings, but change the pressing to all over,

NB: try to get another higher CB and CM

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I have these players at Man City but do not know which lineup to play Do you have any advice for this team:

1-J.HART-- Gk91

2-M.RICHARDS---RB/CB-90

3-G.CLICHY-- LB-91

4-V.KOMPANY---CB/D-M93

5-K.TOURE---CB/RB-90

6-Y.TOURE---CM/DM-93

7-D.SILVA---AM/Wing-94

8-S.NASRI---AM/Wing93

9-S.AGUERO---Fwd/Am-94

10-M.BALOTELLI---Fwd/Wing-90

11-C.TEVEZ---Fwd/Am-93

Substitutes

12-C.PANTILIMON-- Gk86

13-J.LESCOTT---CB/LB-89

14-G.BARRY---CM/DM-91

15-J.MILNER---CM/Wing-90

16-E.DZEKO' date=' - CF-92

17-N.DE JONG---DM/CM-92

18-P.ZABALETA---Def/D-89[/quote']

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Tackling Style: hard

Mentality: very attacking

Passing Style: mixed

Attacking Style: mixed

Tempo: normal

Pressing: all over

Play Style:

Counter-Attack

Tight Marking

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