thedodge 45 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: Counter formations What puzzles me about all this counter formation stuff is this, when playing a computer managed team how do you set up a counter formation when you don't know what formation the computer team is going to play. Having just gone 15 games unbeaten in my league against a mix of computer managed teams and human managed teams. I have not changed any tactics whatsoever whether home or away cup or domestic. I don't care what the other team is going to do I am going to play my best team and the same tactics I wont always win but who cares I reckon I will win more than I will get beaten in. Not that I would compare myself to Fergie but do you think he can't sleep at night wondering how Wigan will set up....No he will play his system with the best team he can put. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arampage 11,822 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Re: Counter formations What puzzles me about all this counter formation stuff is this' date=' when playing a computer managed team how do you set up a counter formation when you don't know what formation the computer team is going to play. Having just gone 15 games unbeaten in my league against a mix of computer managed teams and human managed teams. I have not changed any tactics whatsoever whether home or away cup or domestic. I don't care what the other team is going to do I am going to play my best team and the same tactics I wont always win but who cares I reckon I will win more than I will get beaten in. Not that I would compare myself to Fergie but do you think he can't sleep at night wondering how Wigan will set up....No he will play his system with the best team he can put.[/quote']That system guarantees consistent results. The counter formations thread was set up where you play a known formation, and thus you can use a different formation IF your current formation is shown to be susceptible against the one your opponent will play. It also helps in squad rotation-in case of injuries etc. And Fergie does change formation/personnel/tactics against different teams. marcodalcin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedodge 45 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Re: Counter formations Now 16 league games unbeaten, not changed tactics or formation since November. Plenty of people in my world have changed their formation/tactics as it is quite obvious what I am going to do but to no effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sirmarkhughes 24,769 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Re: Counter formations Now 16 league games unbeaten' date=' not changed tactics or formation since November. Plenty of people in my world have changed their formation/tactics as it is quite obvious what I am going to do but to no effect.[/quote'][sARCASM]Have you ever thought about applying for the Arsenal job?[/sARCASM] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcodalcin 422 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Counter formations Hey i want counter for 3-5-2 having highly rated team 2 or 3+ than mine 4-3-3 wingers or 4-2-3-1 playing down both flanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pg7772a 303 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Re: Counter formations Hey have been using this thread with very good results. In my last 11 games, I've lost just once to the top side in the division, and I misestimated what he would do. Next up, I have a team playing 4-5-1. However, their arrows are crazy ---------------------Goalie----------------------- ---^---------------------------------------^---- ---2-----------4---------------5-----------3----- ---------------v---------------v----------------- ---^------------------10------------------^----- ---7-----------6-------v -----8------------9----- ---------------v--------------v------------------ ------------------------------------------------- -----------------------9------------------------- The "v" and "^" are the arrows. The team that just faced them used 3-2-2-2-1 as is advised, but they lost 1-0. This is a pivotal game. Do you have any advice for me? Thanks for the thread, it really is very good. I think counter formations work to some extent, though, it can also be a better idea to use a set formation. 4-2-3-1 seems to be nearly unbeatable in my experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Papilon 199 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Re: Counter formations What is the best formation to counter a 4-2-2-2? I have a very important gamed in the league. I had never played against this type of formation. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Papilon 199 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Re: Counter formations What is the best formation to counter a 4-2-2-2? I have a very important gamed in the league. I had never played against this type of formation. Thanks Any help please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcodalcin 422 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Riferimento: Counter formations i would use a 4-5-1 defensive putting forward arrows on your 2 wingers if you're using Wings or your wider midfielders if they're RM and LM and i would play a fast, wide game. if losing you can change your tactic to a normal 4-5-1 with the same arrows and logic. arampage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voltage 21 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Re: Counter formations should i use 4-5-1 formation to counter 3-5-2 formation i actually got a manchester city and i want to counter the best team in our league which is barcelona and he uses 3-5-2 formation so i want to beat him for sure please help me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
challenger 170 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Re: Counter formations 4-2-3-1 is working for me at the moment against everyone I am on a 15 game winning streak. Arrows Back on defensive midfielders. Tackling Style - Hard Mentality - Normal Passing Style -Mixed Attacking Style - Mixed Tempo - Normal Pressing - All over Play Style Counter-Attack Men Behind Ball Tight Marking Use Playmaker Use Target Man Playmaker a defensive midfielder and target man striker marcodalcin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcodalcin 422 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Re: Counter formations 4-2-3-1 is one of the best way to counter 3-5-2 but also 4-3-3 wingers could work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedodge 45 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Re: Counter formations I am going for 21 unbeaten in my league tonight, last lost 27 November. I have not changed tactics formation or instructions at all since 27 November, what does this say about counter formations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,760 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Re: Counter formations I am going for 21 unbeaten in my league tonight' date=' last lost 27 November. I have not changed tactics formation or instructions at all since 27 November, what does this say about counter formations.[/quote']I'd say that you are a good manager with a good team, so no need to use the counters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedodge 45 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Re: Counter formations Kind words my friend but I am not that good and my team has an avg of rating of 93 and I def don't have all my games worlds best players and only a first team squad of 27. If anything I think not changing all the time and playing the same team is more important. By the way 21 unbeaten. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rohit420420420 293 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Re: Counter formations Want to ask a question regarding 433wingers i have hummels and t.silva so whom should i use as CB and other as DM in my formation currently i use t.silva as DM and hummels as CB to partner with subotic my second CB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voltage 21 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Re: Counter formations thanks mate 4-5-1 defensive worked against 3-5-2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcodalcin 422 Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Riferimento: Re: Counter formations Want to ask a question regarding 433wingers i have hummels and t.silva so whom should i use as CB and other as DM in my formation currently i use t.silva as DM and hummels as CB to partner with subotic my second CB it depends on your opponent in my opinion for example if he has ibrahimovic in attack and aimar as AM i would preferably use silva as CB and hummels as DM. Rohit420420420 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hprodigy 10 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Re: Counter formations any help against 4222(has 5 wins in row) here is his last form: i have good players 89-91 cfs,cbs,dmfs,amfs,rms,lms, but no wings, maybe one.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben-SCFC 5,367 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Re: Counter formations To counter 4-3-3 wingers' date='[/color'] use 4-1-3-2 or 4-4-2 diamond Most the time when I play against a formation of 4-3-3 Wingers, I generally lose, Is 4-1-3-2 and the 4-4-2 Diamond formation the two you would still suggest for me to use against it or is there any others that you would suggest at this present time? (I play against 4-3-3 Wingers on Wednesday) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,760 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Re: Counter formations Most the time when I play against a formation of 4-3-3 Wingers' date=' I generallylose, Is 4-1-3-2 and the 4-4-2 Diamond formation the two you would still suggest for me to use against it or is there any others that you would suggest at this present time? (I play against 4-3-3 Wingers on Wednesday)[/quote'] use 442 diamonds mate, or since the SM machine has changed I wouldn't say no to a 352 as they have been getting me results recently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyina 9,760 Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Re: Counter formations Most the time when I play against a formation of 4-3-3 Wingers' date=' I generallylose, Is 4-1-3-2 and the 4-4-2 Diamond formation the two you would still suggest for me to use against it or is there any others that you would suggest at this present time? (I play against 4-3-3 Wingers on Wednesday)[/quote'] 32221 not a bad shout too, it's completely your choice I made this for the newbies, which I don't think applies to you (Unless I'm wrong??? :p) GL (is this in EC8000?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben-SCFC 5,367 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Re: Counter formations use 442 diamonds mate' date=' or since the SM machine has changed I wouldn't say no to a 352 as they have been getting me results recently[/quote'] 32221 not a bad shout too' date=' it's completely your choice I made this for the newbies, which I don't think applies to you (Unless I'm wrong??? :p)GL (is this in EC8000?)[/quote'] I wouldnt suggest 3-5-2 at all mate, Not 100% sure if you are in EC7777, If you are have a look In EC7777 At My Man City schedule Look on 28th January of last month, I played At Cardiff, There average rating was about 88 with 4-3-3 Wingers, Mine average rating was 92 with the 3-5-2 and I managed to lose 3-0 - That was with my players in the correct positions, didnt work well at all. Yeah It is EC8000, My Yeovil face Preston on Wednesday who play the 4-3-3 Wingers, Ive got be careful with trusting you considering im top of the league and your right behind me in 2nd , I will see mate on Matchday and probably decide then. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voltage 21 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Re: Counter formations What formation should i use to counter 4-2-2 diamond. I really need help i need to win the match otherwise i will loose the championship, so please help me i need a good formation to counter 4-2-2 diamond and please reply as soon as you can because the match is tomorrow. please help me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcodalcin 422 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Re: Counter formations @ voltage: if your team is better play 4-2-3-1 if it's weaker play 4-5-1 @ benjamin : if it can help... all 100% players both sides, away match for roma which has weaker side (2 points less than chelsea) otherwise choose 4-5-1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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