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Young - low rated - getting minutes

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timesle    8,023

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4 matchdays have (almost) been played now in the Bundesliga and in the eyes of a Soccermanager the most important question probably is: "Who is the next Götze? Who will get the next huge rise?"

Though I don't think we'll have a riser like Götze this year (as he is an extra-ordinary player) there are still quite some youngsters who may get nice rises.

So I took a look at the Bundesliga teams and made a list about the recent youngsters. In this list there are only players rated 80 or lower, being not older than 22 and having played at least 1 minute this season so far. Furthermore I sorted the list according to how I rate the chances for the player to get a nice rise.

I am careful to point out that I can't give any detailed information about the players. I hardly have seen them play so far and I also don't want to judge the players based on 3 or 4 games. However due to my experience with Soccermanager and the Bundesliga I dare to say who has good chances to rise. But I also can't predict now, how much they will rise.

Besides if you have questions regarding other Bundesliga players I please you to ask in the respective Bundesliga Rating Thread.

Should anyone still ask how much one of the following players will rise or should anyone ask how any other player is doing in the Bundesliga, his question will either be ignored or it will be answered in a sarcastically way.

Young - low rated - getting minutes

Must buys

Marc-André ter Stegen

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 19

Rating: 78

Minutes played this season: 270

Bernd Leno

Bayer Leverkusen

Age: 19

Rating: 79

Minutes: 270

Julian Draxler

Schalke 04

Age: 17

Rating: 80

Minutes: 180

Good buys

Patrick Rakovsky

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 180

Markus Mendler

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 78

Minutes: 136

Akaki Gogia

FC Augsburg

Age: 19

Rating: 76

Minutes: 150

Chris Löwe

Borussia Dortmund

Age: 22

Rating: 75

Minutes: 165

Julian Wiessmeier

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 108

Lennart Thy

Werder Bremen

Age: 19

Rating: 78

Minutes: 151

Konstantinos Fortounis

1. FC Kaiserslautern

Age: 19

Rating: 79

Minutes: 270

Miro Varvodic

1. FC Köln

Age: 22

Rating: 80

Minutes: 180

Alexander Esswein

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 21

Rating: 80

Minutes: 127

Richard Sukuta-Pasu

1. FC Kaiserslautern

Age: 21

Rating: 80

Minutes: 251

Robert Mak

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 20

Rating: 80

Minutes: 60

Maybe tops - maybe flops

Daniel Williams

SC Freiburg

Age: 22

Rating: 78

Minutes: 90

Michael Schulze

VfL Wolfsburg

Age: 22

Rating: 75

Minutes: 75

Odise Roshi

1. FC Köln

Age: 20

Rating: 78

Minutes: 43

Lukas Rupp

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 20

Rating: 76

Minutes: 22

Matthew Leckie

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 20

Rating: 80

Minutes: 24

Alfredo Morales

Hertha BSC Berlin

Age: 21

Rating: 75

Minutes: 24

Dominik Kaiser

1899 Hoffenheim

Age: 22

Rating: 75

Minutes: 24

Petar Sliskovic

FSV Mainz 05

Age: 20

Rating: 78

Minutes: 13

Joshua King

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 19

Rating: 77

Minutes: 5

Finally I'd like to add that I don't give any guarantee that these players will rise. Maybe one of them will break his leg tomorrow and then a rise is of course more than uncertain. Maybe one of these players won't get any more minutes in the first team due to whatever reasons. I don't have a crystal ball - I certainly can't predict the future. But I would say if you buy all of these players you will make a profit.

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timesle    8,023

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

Very good thread :)

Thanks. :)

In my opinion' date=' we can name Draxler, this year's Götze :) He played 86 minutes yesterday against Gladbach. Now he has a total of 264 minutes. I agree he's a must buy.[/quote']

Well, I thought about that, too, to be honest. But I still wouldn't call Draxler the next Götze due to two points.

  • I don't think that Schalke will play as impressive as Dortmund did last season.
  • Draxler IMO doesn't have such a great input to the game like Götze has (and had) at Dortmund. Götze was already a key player in his first season whilst Draxler is a good player he can be replaced more easily IMO.

Nevertheless I believe that Draxler can reach 86-87 this season.

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

  • I don't think that Schalke will play as impressive as Dortmund did last season.
  • Draxler IMO doesn't have such a great input to the game like Götze has (and had) at Dortmund. Götze was already a key player in his first season whilst Draxler is a good player he can be replaced more easily IMO.

Completely agree, I also prefer name Draxler, "Draxler" but if we're obligated to name someone Götze, Draxler would be the most appropriate candidate :P Never mind, it would be better we discuss other subjects :D

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

very good thread, great job! Well done mate :)

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timesle    8,023

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

Well, almost 8 matchdays have been played now - so another 4 since I created the thread. Due to the positive feedback I decided to make an

★★★★★★★★★

★ U P D A T E: ★

★★★★★★★★★

Must buys

Marc-André ter Stegen

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 19

Rating: 78

Minutes played this season: 720

Ter Stegen is an awesome keeper. He has already shown this last season when he replaced Bailly while Gladbach was at the bottom of the table - basically already relegated. But at that time as an 18 year old Bundesliga newbie he managed to get only 3 goals against in the last 6 matches of the season and so Gladbach managed to avoid the relegation. This season he has proved that this hasn't happened by accident. So far in 8 games played he received only 4 goals against. The second best of all teams behind Bayern. IMO ter Stegen is easily talented enough to become a 90+ rated keeper in future.

__________

Bernd Leno

Bayer Leverkusen

Age: 19

Rating: 79

Minutes: 630

Another German goalkeeper talent. Currently a bit hyped by the media IMO but still a very good keeper, too. Though I would say Leno hasn't shown as much as ter Stegen has so far, he might get the same or even a higher rise as he plays CL with Bayer. Again I would say he has the abilities to get 90 anytime.

__________

Julian Draxler

Schalke 04

Age: 18

Rating: 80

Minutes: 355

It might be a bit surprising that I still list Draxler as a must buy, comparing his played minutes with those of the other 2 players in this category. However I still believe he will get a nice rise as he also gets lots of EL minutes and therefore he sometimes gets rested in the league. Furthermore I think he is a decent player and a good talent and so he'll make his way.

__________

Good buys

Chris Löwe

Borussia Dortmund

Age: 22

Rating: 75

Minutes: 389

Alexander Esswein

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 21

Rating: 80

Minutes: 398

Richard Sukuta-Pasu

1. FC Kaiserslautern

Age: 21

Rating: 80

Minutes: 502

Gökhan Töre

Hamburger SV

Age: 19

Rating: 80

Minutes: 387

Dominik Kaiser

1899 Hoffenheim

Age: 23

Rating: 75

Minutes: 293

Markus Mendler

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 78

Minutes: 284

Akaki Gogia

FC Augsburg

Age: 19

Rating: 76

Minutes: 294

Konstantinos Fortounis

1. FC Kaiserslautern

Age: 19

Rating: 79

Minutes: 273

Maybe tops - maybe flops

Robert Mak

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 20

Rating: 80

Minutes: 180

Julian Wiessmeier

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 120

Lennart Thy

Werder Bremen

Age: 19

Rating: 78

Minutes: 151

Daniel Williams

1899 Hoffenheim

Age: 22

Rating: 78

Minutes: 197

Patrick Rakovsky

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 180

Miro Varvodic

1. FC Köln

Age: 22

Rating: 80

Minutes: 180

Michael Schulze

VfL Wolfsburg

Age: 22

Rating: 75

Minutes: 75

Odise Roshi

1. FC Köln

Age: 20

Rating: 78

Minutes: 43

Lukas Rupp

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 20

Rating: 76

Minutes: 32

Matthew Leckie

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 20

Rating: 80

Minutes: 42

Alfredo Morales

Hertha BSC Berlin

Age: 21

Rating: 75

Minutes: 24

Knowledge Musona

1899 Hoffenheim

Age: 21

Rating: 78

Minutes: 69

Zhi Gin Lam

Hamburger SV

Age: 20

Rating: 75

Minutes: 64

Danny da Costa

Bayer Leverkusen

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 63

Karim Bellarabi

Bayer Leverkusen

Age: 21

Rating: 80

Minutes: 38

Teemu Pukki

Schalke 04

Age: 21

Rating: 78

Minutes: 25

Marvin Plattenhardt

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 19

Rating: 79

Minutes: 19

Wilson Kamavuaka

1. FC Nürnberg

Age: 21

Rating: 75

Minutes: 7

Joshua King

Borussia Mönchengladbach

Age: 19

Rating: 77

Minutes: 5

Willi Orban

1. FC Kaiserslautern

Age: 18

Rating: 75

Minutes: 4

Jannik Vestergaard

1899 Hoffenheim

Age: 19

Rating: 76

Minutes: 3

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timesle    8,023

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

Update????????

Thank You

I don't think I will update this again because

1) I don't have much time to do so currently

2) Phil made his new Bundesliga rating thread and there you can look for good prospects on your own.

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timesle    8,023

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

★★★★★★★★

★ Analysis: ★

★★★★★★★★

Marc-André ter Stegen +7

Bernd Leno +6

Julian Draxler +4

So the "must buys" rose by 5.67 on average.

Chris Löwe +5

Alexander Esswein +3

Richard Sukuta-Pasu +2

Gökhan Töre +4

Dominik Kaiser +3

Markus Mendler +2

Akaki Gogia +4

Konstantinos Fortounis +4

Rising on average of the good buys: 3.38

Robert Mak +2

Julian Wiessmeier +2

Lennart Thy +1

Daniel Williams +4

Patrick Rakovsky +2

Miro Varvodic +0

Michael Schulze +0

Odise Roshi +2

Lukas Rupp +4

Matthew Leckie +0

Alfredo Morales +1

Knowledge Musona +4

Zhi Gin Lam +2

Danny da Costa +2

Karim Bellarabi +0

Teemu Pukki +5

Marvin Plattenhardt +3

Wilson Kamavuaka +2

Joshua King +0

Willi Orban +1

Jannik Vestergaard +2

Average rise of the "maybe tops - maybe flops": 1.86

So basically as I said before: If you bought all of them, you surely made a nice profit.

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Re: Young - low rated - getting minutes

I think Töre and Vestergaard are the ones you should keep an eye on.

Töre has been surprisingly good in a team fighting for survival. Now that HSV is doing a bit better he might benefit even more.

Vestergaard is getting more and more time and might be one of the next big risers.

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