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:eek: The fact that he leaves Torres' date=' Anelka and Lukaku on the bench speaks for itself, he is one of Chelsea's best attacking options and he's achieved a remarkable amount by becoming more or less a starting striker, ahead of a "world-class" striker that cost £50M.[/quote']

This "FACT" is true he is better than Torres Anelka and Lukaku. But what you are ignoring is that Torres should drop, Anelka should drop and Lukaka is finely rated 89 based on his performances at Aderlecht. His being placed at 89 as a young players is well and good. To see him rise to a 90 would have been too much too soon. Sure he has performed well but he hasnt really kept anyone who can be considered a premier striker out of the line up. Its not like he's keeping Rooney, Ibra, Aguero etc out of the starting 11...hes keeping Torres who i never thought was a good player (had 1 good season) Anelka who is on the wrong side of 30 and Lukaka who is 19 (i think). This is nothing remarkable. Not to deminish his PROMISE for the future , but currently a +1 was more than fair and justified. Look at how much more Gotze did to go from 89 to 91. he is an unrivaled start for Dortmund, he is THE best player on the team barring Hummels. (92) He is an automatic selection for Germany at just 19 who if it werent for Ozil he would be the #1 attacking midfielder and likely will still manage to start along side him. He constantly is among the best on the pitch for the german team and dortmund. Sturridge has some way to go. Just be fair in your assessments when you make them. Chelsea as a team overall have struggeled and are no where near the side they used to be...this also plays a part in the rating of a player.

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Lots of people on here need to realise that SM rewards consistency over time far more than form over a few months. Modric hasn't been as good as last season, but last season he was playing well above 92 level. This season he was poor in a couple of early matches but has still put in some of the best performances seen in a Spurs shirt against Liverpool, Villa and Bolton - where he was exceptional.

Add in the fact that he's been a consistent part of a team in 3rd place (who have no players rated over 92) and you've got your 93 reasoning.

Overall, his consistency over the last 3-4 years (and time at Zagreb) is what has earned him his rating - not the last half a season on it's own.

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Don't know if this has been brought up already, so I am sorry if it has, but Kyle Walker is rated 88 and Vedran Corluka 89. How can Walker be rated lower than Corluka when he is keeping him out of the starting 11?! That just does not make any sense. Walker is probably the best RB in the Premiership, and should be rated at least 89.

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Don't know if this has been brought up already' date=' so I am sorry if it has, but Kyle Walker is rated 88 and Vedran Corluka 89. How can Walker be rated lower than Corluka when he is keeping him out of the starting 11?! That just does not make any sense. Walker is probably the best RB in the Premiership, and should be rated at least 89.[/quote']

It's a gradual process, Corluka is an experienced player and his rating reflects many years of top flight football.

Walker has only played 1 full season in the Prem and that was for Villa

Give it time and Walker will be rated higher than Corluka, you can't expect these things immediately.

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Absolutely. For Walker to be rated higher than Corluka after one season (Villa and Spurs) of regular top flight football isn't what SM does. Corluka has years of good top-flight performances before this season and has played regularly at international level for Croatia.

Walker has been good this season, but is still making progress. He's improving steadily in terms of his defensive awareness and positioning, which was sorely lacking in some of his early appearances this season. I don't think SM want to 'do a Glen Johnson' and bump him up too quickly into the low 90's without seeing him perform constantly at club and international level.

My prediction is that Walker will be 89 at the end of the season but I don't think Corluka will slip to 88 just yet. As with the World Cup, the Euro's might well be a big factor in the ratings that players achieve early next season (see Coentrao for a good example). If Corluka fails to impress on the big stage then he'll be dropping again for sure.

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The problem lately with SM ratings is that they seem to be based on gossip and popularity. Here are two examples.

1. RVP vs Mario Gomez. Both have had outstanding seasons, RVP obviously deserved to go up, but have a look at Mario Gomez's stats this season alone. He quite literally has scored a goal a game in all forms (Bundesliga, CL and Germany). The only observation I can take from this is that RVP is more well known and hence went up.

2. Mario Balotelli Vs Mario Gotze. Gotze is obviously a gun and should have been 90 but 91??? This rating makes no sense when you consider Balotelli is of a similar age, playing at a better club (and arguably more successful club this season) scoring more goals, yet he only goes up 1. Here it seems that the links to other clubs (ie Arsenal plus other teams interest) of Gotze have helped him go up 2. The same case could be argued for Modric. The more gossip about a player, the more it influences a ratings change, I am convinved of that

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The problem lately with SM ratings is that they seem to be based on gossip and popularity. Here are two examples.

1. RVP vs Mario Gomez. Both have had outstanding seasons' date=' RVP obviously deserved to go up, but have a look at Mario Gomez's stats this season alone. He quite literally has scored a goal a game in all forms (Bundesliga, CL and Germany). The only observation I can take from this is that RVP is more well known and hence went up.

2. Mario Balotelli Vs Mario Gotze. Gotze is obviously a gun and should have been 90 but 91??? This rating makes no sense when you consider Balotelli is of a similar age, playing at a better club (and arguably more successful club this season) scoring more goals, yet he only goes up 1. Here it seems that the links to other clubs (ie Arsenal plus other teams interest) of Gotze have helped him go up 2. The same case could be argued for Modric. [b']The more gossip about a player, the more it influences a ratings change, I am convinved of that[/b]

Lets hope Henry goes up to being 90+ rated then! It's true though- Gomez is the most lethal striker in the world, so how did he not go up in the Bundesliga ratings? He can't be popular then.

Furthermore, Hazard and Gotze are rated far too highly. 91 is much too high. Though they are some of the best, regular starting, young talents in the world, Gotze and Hazard surely can't be rated better than the likes of Hernandez, Pastore, Huntelaar, (Ashley) Young, Anderson, Parker, Gatuso and Luiz? Youngsters are heavily over rated on SM, as are players who make the gossip columns and popular players.

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Lets hope Henry goes up to being 90+ rated then! It's true though- Gomez is the most lethal striker in the world' date=' so how did he not go up in the Bundesliga ratings? He can't be popular then.

Furthermore, Hazard and Gotze are rated far too highly. 91 is much too high. Though they are some of the best, regular starting, young talents in the world, Gotze and Hazard surely can't be rated better than the likes of [b']Hernandez, Pastore[/b], Huntelaar, (Ashley) Young, Anderson, Parker, Gatuso and Luiz? Youngsters are heavily over rated on SM, as are players who make the gossip columns and popular players.

Actually for the players in bold, it's correct Gotze and Hazard are higher - they are currently better!

Gomez didn't go up as for the higher players, SM look at the long term. Yes, he should go up as he is more than deserving of 94, but he was lucky to stay at 93 in the past, so it balances out. He will be 94 in the future, trust me (if he maintains his immense form).

Gotze got a +2 to 91, because in the past he perhaps should have received a +2 from 88 to 90, but only rose to 89. Perhaps SM felt the 90 was overdue, and he also deserved a +1 anyway. He also plays for the Bundesliga champions don't forget, and is their key attacking instrument.

About Balotelli vs Gotze. Balotelli isn't a starter at City, and City are equally as successful as Dortmund this season (both out of CL). As mentioned above, he also plays for the Bundesliga champions don't forget, and is their key attacking instrument, and has far more ability than Balotelli anyway imo.

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